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To: Jamey who wrote (37737)	6/17/2004 8:53:25 AM
From: alan w	Respond to of 39621

I believe this is one area where the majority of believers know that their immortal spirit goes to heaven at death. I believe this one is nothing more than as Hank Hannegrafe sp?? would put it "traditional teaching of the christian faith". ie, not necessarily grounded in scripture. It's ok, either way, it's instantaneous. There is no waiting in my belief because hades is the imperceptible or the unseen, so there is no works or knowledge there. By the way, there is no scriptural evidence for your phrase our "immortal spirit". That is a state spoken of for Christ only at this point in time. alan w

To: Jamey who wrote (37737)	6/17/2004 9:52:35 AM
From: haqihana	Respond to of 39621

James, In one sense, you are right. We have hope, be it eternal or not, but no one can know for sure. It is typical of humans to believe that they are something so far removed from the animals, that we must have a better situation after physical death, but again, no one can know. To say one knows, is an impossibility. Yes, believers say they "know" that their spirits go to heaven, but until anyone dies, there is no way they can know anything about an afterlife until the experience it. The rest is "belief", which is no more than opinion.