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To: Andrew N. Cothran who wrote (50629)6/17/2004 8:33:28 AM
From: Andrew N. Cothran  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793991
 
June 17, 2004 --

To hear much of the news reporting yesterday, you'd think a national 9/11 Commission report had blown a giant hole in the Bush administra tion's rationale for toppling Saddam Hussein.
The commission did no such thing.

But that didn't stop congressional Democrats — led by presumptive presidential nominee John Kerry — from renewing their charges that the administration "misled America" about Saddam Hussein's ties to Osama bin Laden.

Again, that's not what the report says.

And even if it did, a Saddam-Osama alliance is not why America opened a front in Iraq as part of the War on Terror.

The staff report, re leased as part of yes terday's final public hearings, says there was no evident connection between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 attacks.

In fact, the Bush administration has never said there was.



The report also says the commission has "no credible evidence that Iraq and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States."

Again, the administration never said there was.

But the report does say that bin Laden actively sought to work with Saddam, through contacts arranged by the Sudanese government.

Indeed, it says, "a senior Iraqi intelligence office reportedly made three visits to Sudan, finally meeting bin Laden in 1994." Further, it says, "contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda also occurred after bin Laden returned to Afghanistan."

The report claims that those contacts "do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship." But that's far from a flat-out "no ties exist."

And, again, the administration has alleged only that Saddam and al Qaeda maintained contacts that were more than casual or inconsequential, none of which is denied in the commission report.

In fact, as Stephen Hayes writes in The Weekly Standard, the conventional wisdom in Washington long before George W. Bush took office was that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were partners in terrorism.

Two Clinton-administration stalwarts, Attorney General Janet Reno and U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White, brought an indictment against bin Laden and a deputy, Mohammed Atef, in 1998 — charging that Saddam and Osama "reached an understanding . . . that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq."

Yes, those allegations were eventually dropped from the indictment. These likely means they couldn't have been proven in a court of law under federal rules of evidence — not necessarily that they were baseless to begin with.

(This underscores the dangers of treating global terrorism in the age of suitcase nukes as a legal — not a military — matter, as candidate Kerry proposes.)

Meanwhile, back in 1999, ABC News reported that Saddam had offered bin Laden asylum, citing their "long relationship" and a December 1998 meeting in Afghanistan between Osama and Iraqi intelligence chief Faruq Hijazi.

That same year, the Congressional Research Service reported that if Saddam Hussein "decide[s] to use terrorists to attack the continental United States, [he] would likely turn to bin Laden's al Qaeda," which was then recruiting "Iraqi chemical weapons experts."

Did everyone mislead America?

If, in fact, the nation was misled, the misleading began long before George W. Bush entered the White House.

But what if substantive Osama-Saddam ties were for real? Just because the Kean commission hasn't yet found any evidence does not mean it doesn't exist.

As recently as Monday, Vice President Dick Cheney said that Saddam "had long-established ties with al Qaeda" — a statement his spokesman reiterated again yesterday.

Further details can be found in Richard Miniter's vastly illuminating column on the opposite page.

In other words, the Kean commission — whose blatantly partisan Bush-bashing has been manifest from the get-go — is hardly the final word on the subject.

But the commission report does offer a clear rejoinder to those like Sen. Bob Graham — a possible Kerry vice presidential pick — who charge that the war in Iraq somehow constituted a distraction from the War on Terror.

Many seem to have forgotten that the first U.S. military action after 9/11 was to invade Afghanistan and destroy its Taliban government, targeting bin Laden strongholds — and capturing many of his top aides — in the process.

As a result, the report says, "al Qaeda's funding has decreased significantly. The arrests or deaths of several important financial facilitators have decreased the amount of money al Qaeda has raised and increased the costs and difficulty or raising and moving that money."

Moreover, though the organization re mains dangerous, it today has "a greatly weakened central organization."

Still, President Bush realized — as John Kerry, the Democrats and the Kean commission clearly do not — that the war on terrorism is not just about seeking revenge against the perpetrators of 9/11.

It's about neutralizing radical Islam's fundamental challenge to Western civilization — fighting to win a war that was imposed on the West by evil men in the service of a depraved ideology.

The path to victory is not clear, but the alternative is one, two, many 9/11's — each more horrific than its predecessor.

Why is that so hard to understand?

THE NEW YORK POST OF June 17th, 2004



To: Andrew N. Cothran who wrote (50629)6/17/2004 2:44:57 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793991
 
Chicago Tribune


They sure did. I see I was wrong about Osama renting training camps in Iraq. He tried, but they never did, according to this. However, the close cooperation between the Baathists in Fallujah and Al Qaeda shows they have no trouble working together.

We have seen a lot of definitions of who we are fighting. The best I have seen is "Militant Islam."



To: Andrew N. Cothran who wrote (50629)6/17/2004 5:00:45 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 793991
 
The Seattle Times headline says: No Strong Ties found between A-Q and Iraq....and yet the actual story has the "no credible evidence words"on the header...

Don't believe they mentioned Cheney's more limited quote...typical.

"We have no credible evidence that Iraq and Al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States." That contention doesn't address Cheney's more limited assertion that Iraq and Al Qaeda had "long-established ties."



To: Andrew N. Cothran who wrote (50629)6/17/2004 5:03:41 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 793991
 
Odd man out: Al Gore's journey into irrelevance

seattletimes.nwsource.com

Collin Levey / Times editorial columnist

[KLP Note: Levey may make it worthwhile for me to keep the ST for awhile longer....]

It was a real love-in at the White House this week as President Bush extended a warm welcome to the Clintons for the unveiling of their official White House portraits. But while everyone was trading backrubs, there was one person notably absent from the room: Al Gore.

Asked about the former veep's absence, former Clinton spokeswoman Dee Dee Myers seemed to arch an eyebrow. "Good question," she told NBC. "I think that was a question that was being asked all over the room yesterday by the Clinton aides that were there. I don't know."

Myers continued: "I think it was well-known that things did not end on a high note between the president and the vice president; however, they seemed to reconcile over the years."

Wherever Gore was, his absence came off as a snub and even a power-play refusal to spend another second in Clinton's shadow. Over the past few months of the presidential race, the distance between Clinton and Gore has seemed to widen, creating a bipolar force field in the Democratic Party. John Kerry's campaign has had to navigate the identity crisis as best it could, driving Kerry into areas of emphasis outside the tension — like his Vietnam service.

The friction isn't a brand new phenomenon for Clinton and Gore, of course. The men, even as candidates, didn't have much personal style or rhythm in common. Clinton was smooth and fluid, Gore uptight and mechanical. And, most notably, when Gore ran for election in 2000, he made the decision to separate himself from the Clinton scandals, and the man himself, to whatever extent he could. Gore even seemed to disown the wealth creation of the Clinton years with his tirades against the "rich and powerful."

The high point (or low point, depending on how strong your stomach is) came when Candidate Al and Tipper suddenly became mega-gropers, showcasing their marital happiness with a make-out session at the convention.

The contrasts back then were heavy-handed and it's unlikely that Clinton ever really forgave the slight. But the feeling was mutual: Gore was never really Clinton's priority anyway — before his own presidency was even finished, Hillary had moved to Chappaqua to prepare for her current life as a senator from New York. As soon as that happened, Clinton began to see her as his future empire, not Gore.

Fast-forwarding to the current primary contest, the feud seems to have mushroomed into a battle for headlines and party influence — one that Gore has been losing with one misstep after another. Gore endorsed Howard Dean at what may well be considered the height of Dean's popularity, before his fatal red-faced yaaargh following his loss in Iowa. Clinton, meanwhile, did the exact opposite, implicitly endorsing the unorthodox anti-Dean candidate, Wesley Clark.

Those choices suggested very different visions for the future of the Democratic Party. Had Dean, with cheerleader Gore nearby, ascended to the nomination, the choice would have been seen to negate the Clinton legacy of the Democratic Leadership Council and the rise of successful moderates in the party. It would, in the predictions of many, have wrecked the Democratic Party's presidential hopes for a generation, much as the McGovern defeat in 1972 did. Guess who would have been the big loser then? Hillary.

Clinton was also the quickest to embrace Kerry, while Gore fumed on the sidelines and tried to outdo Michael Moore in turning the Iraq war into a criminal escapade of the Bush administration. (Clinton has not only been circumspect in criticizing the war, but occasionally gives evidence of understanding the long-term dilemma that Saddam Hussein posed amid a growing struggle over the future of the Middle East).

Gore continues to fan the bitterness of his 2000 loss, most recently stirring up recriminations between Democrats in the contest to fill outgoing Sen. Bob Graham's seat in Florida. Naturally, this came just as savvier politicians in both parties recognized that, in the wake of Ronald Reagan's death, the public wanted more nicey-nice from the two parties.

Clinton and George Bush, showing why they are political winners, conspired to create just such a moment this week, benefiting them both. No wonder Kerry now mentions Bill Clinton's name 20 times in his stump speech. Meanwhile, Gore's venomous blatherings — he most recently called for the resignation of at least four Cabinet secretaries over Iraq — are passed over in silence. Gore's performances have made more than a few in his own party cringe — as much at the delivery as at the message.

Clinton's book tour will likely tip the scales even further against Gore and produce a wave of Clinton nostalgia all its own, which may be a godsend for the Democrats. Our fondness for the Clinton presidency, after all, has to do with recalling a less complicated, more peaceful time.

Kerry understands this, too. His recent stump performances suggest a man who has suddenly recognized how much he stands to gain from associating himself with Clinton's happier era and leaving the public to associate Bush with the more troubled world we find ourselves in now.

This may not win Kerry the White House (voters know they need a president to confront the troubles head on), but guess who benefits from a campaign that treats the Clinton legacy as worth cherishing? Hillary.

Collin Levey writes Thursdays for editorial pages of The Times. E-mail her at clevey@seattletimes.com