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To: hueyone who wrote (663)	6/17/2004 11:46:02 AM
From: hueyone	Respond to of 786

AFAIK, there is no way to reverse expenses in the instance where a company tanks and the options end up never having any value--- Actually, that was the wrong thing to say. I should have said where the options "never realize cash value"---they have do indeed have positive value when issued imho.

To: hueyone who wrote (663)	6/17/2004 12:40:08 PM
From: rkral	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 786

Huey, re "I really don't know whether the tax treatment would change were the current FASB rule were to go in to effect. Maybe Rkal knows." Don't know for sure, but I believe IRS treatment would not change. If true, there would be a noticeable increase in the effective tax rate on the SFAS 123 pro-forma earnings (versus GAAP earnings). Unfortunately, before-tax numbers are not being disclosed AFAIK. And even if they were, there might be no clue as to whether the current year tax-benefit (from exercise) was included. BTW, since MSFT began reporting per SFAS 123, I've not been able to determine the current period stock-based compensation amount. Not sure if it's not there, or if I just haven't figured out how to find it. Ron