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To: E. T. who wrote (190815)	6/18/2004 12:40:59 PM
From: TigerPaw	Respond to of 1574267

our truest ally in the ME Somehow I think Israel is our truest ally in the same sense that Eddie Haskell was Wally's best friend in Leave it to Beaver TP

To: E. T. who wrote (190815)	6/18/2004 3:36:12 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574267

I don't know. But I'd be reluctant to let our truest ally in the ME stand up alone against a cast of Arab countries that are totally beligerent toward it. A Pew survey (?), I read a while back, showed that about 70% of ME Arabs consider the vanquishing of Israel a viable option to solving the PA situation. Israel is THE superpower in the region........she would do very well against any Arab attack. And just because we cut off aid does not mean we couldn't come to her defense if she were attacked. Cutting off the aid would also wean Israel from her US dependency and she might start to negotiate in good faith with the Palestinians. BTW remind me again what our alliance with Israel does for us? I keep asking the question and I don't get an answer. And pay no mind to mph's reasons..........her answers come off cue cards supplied by the RNC. <g> ted

To: E. T. who wrote (190815)	6/21/2004 1:54:53 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574267

<font color=brown> How much do you want to bet this changes very little?!<font color=black> ********************************************************** Arafat recognises Jewish state and limit to return of refugees Chris McGreal in Jerusalem Saturday June 19, 2004 The Guardian Yasser Arafat has told an Israeli newspaper that he recognises Israel's right to remain a Jewish state and is, therefore, prepared to accept the return of only a fraction of the Palestinian refugees.In an interview with Ha'aretz, published yesterday, the Palestinian leader was asked if he understood that "Israel has to keep being a Jewish state"? "Definitely," he replied. Ha'aretz said it was the first time he had said he recognised the state's Jewish character. In 1988, he said that the Palestine Liberation Organisation he headed accepted Israel's right to exist, but made no reference to it being a Jewish state. In the Ha'aretz interview, he says it is "clear and obvious" that the refugee problem needs to be resolved in a way that does not change the Jewish character of Israel through an influx of millions of returning Palestinians - a core concern of many ordinary Israelis. Last week a former Israeli military intelligence chief, Amos Malka, said he believed that Mr Arafat would accept fewer than 30,000 refugees returning to their homes in Israel, provided that this was coupled with Israeli recognition of responsibility for their plight. The Geneva Initiative, which Mr Arafat has endorsed, envisages a similar number and an acknowledgement that Israel contributed to the suffering of refugees. The Palestinian leader declined to be drawn on numbers in the interview. He noted that there were 200,000 refugees living in difficult conditions in Lebanon who had to be helped, but said there was nothing to stop most of them moving to the West Bank if a Palestinian state were established there. But he criticised Israel for permitting an influx of about 1 million Russians after the Soviet collapse, while keeping out Palestinians born in what is now Israel. His view on the shape of a Palestinian state remains the same. He wants Israeli withdrawal from 97% of the West Bank and all of Gaza. Israel must also quit east Jerusalem. Mr Arafat's intentions have been at the centre of a political argument within Israel, after Amos Gilad, a former deputy chief of military intelligence, said the Palestinian leader sought the destruction of Israel. Mr Malka responded by saying Mr Arafat would have been prepared to make peace in 2000 if the then Israeli prime minister, Ehud Barak, had made a better offer. · Israeli helicopters fired six missiles at three buildings in a crowded Gaza Strip neighbourhood last night, witnesses said. At least three people were injured, hospital officials said. One strike hit a metal workshop which had been targeted several months before. Israel claimed it was used by militants to make rockets. guardian.co.uk