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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (190923)6/18/2004 9:32:56 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1579067
 
JF, our oil dollars are going to the very regimes that are creating conditions ripe for terrorism. Since Ted admitted that we can't just stop buying ME oil, we'll either need to fix those regimes or brace ourselves for more bombs, beheadings, and other horrors.

Its interesting how you never answer the question asked. Is because you don't know, or are you afraid that those principles are indefensible?

ted



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (190923)6/18/2004 10:07:37 PM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1579067
 
re:
JF, our oil dollars are going to the very regimes that are creating conditions ripe for terrorism. Since Ted admitted that we can't just stop buying ME oil, we'll either need to fix those regimes or brace ourselves for more bombs, beheadings, and other horrors.


How, when, did we get to the point where we think we have the right, or the power, to "fix" the world? Is it a moral obligation or an obligation of power? Or an economic obligation?

There are "regimes" all over the world that we disagree with on differing levels. Are we going to replace them all? If some country (or group of countries) eventually gets militarily stronger than we are, and they disagree with us, are they justified in replacing our "regime"? Does "might = right" in all cases, or only as it applies to the US?

And frankly, what the naive neo's don't realize is that they are about to upset the apple cart. The world economy is a fragile machine that is lubricated by oil. You take Saudi oil out of the system, and the machine fails, big time. Forget the little fluctuations in the economy, think disaster. Think poverty for your family.

John



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (190923)6/19/2004 2:43:33 AM
From: Amy J  Respond to of 1579067
 
Tenchusatsu, RE: "our oil dollors are going to the very regimes that are creating conditions ripe for terrorism...we'll either need to fix those regimes or brace ourseles for more"

The oil issue has the government's hand tied. Our government is rather powerless to impose anything on an oil partner, just like it is powerless to impose anything on Israel due to our country's lifestyle that demands high oil needs. We allow ourselves to be overly dependent upon an unstable region of the world.

One can't dictate their views onto another country, when that country controls (or helps you gain) access to oil. (Some might even say, a Democracy should not be imposing its culture onto other countries, but that's another thing.)

Regards,
Amy J