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To: i-node who wrote (190945)	6/19/2004 2:34:16 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1573849

Certainly, you're not suggesting that Abu Ghraib is a White House "scandal"? Yes he is. Deal with it..........the whole place is smelling bad.

To: i-node who wrote (190945)	6/19/2004 12:16:54 PM
From: SilentZ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573849

>1) Certainly, you're not suggesting that Abu Ghraib is a White House "scandal"? Hell, whatever this was originated deeply within the military bureaucracy. While it is a scandal in the same sense that tailhook was, it certainly doesn't involve the White House. It could have happened just as easily under any administration. This administration's equivocality towards the Geneva Conventions, plus its apparent blindness that this abuse was going on, seemingly widespread, and likely sanctioned by military officials were significant factors in what happened at Abu Ghraib. We're still at the beginning of this one... if it's not a "scandal" now, it will be. >2) As to Plame, it appears to be a politically motivated attack by her husband, Joe Wilson. It is not even clear that she is subject to the provisions of 50 USC §421, since it isn't clear she was a "covert agent" within its meaning. Further, there isn't any real evidence that the administration was involved at this point. There is an investigation underway, and I'm hesitant to start crying "scandal" until there is AT LEAST some evidence one exists. At any rate, I'm not sure it is much of a scandal when the administration is being totally cooperative in the investigation, which it is. SOMEONE at the White House leaked it... there is absolutely no doubt in my mind. Wilson had no motivation to make it up. Do you think he called Bob Novak and the other five journalists in question? You actually may be right; these might not be "scandals" in the purest sense, but only because the Bush White House's damage control is much better than Clinton's was. On the other hand, the above events had much more gravity, as they have to do with Bush administration practice and policy, and that was not the case with Whitewater and Lewinskygate. -Z