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To: TobagoJack who wrote (51105)	6/19/2004 1:01:08 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 74559

OK let me rephrase that ... That's peanuts :o) Seriously how can folks live that way ? So bald guys that don't garden are better off it looks like ?

To: TobagoJack who wrote (51105)	6/19/2004 1:29:41 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

Jay - minor revision to your numbers - One car is paid for, or was bought used + 3,000 5000 gas at 2.50/gal is 2000 gallons. Times 20 mpg is 40k miles - way to high. Try about 12k miles per year. So 3,000 for gas. + 2,000 Car insurance unless both cars are sports cars, or the male driver under 25, this will be closer to about 2,200. older drivers, clean records help even more. + 800 Cable TV - that's $100 a month ! Drop sports pakage and porn channels. +300 Property Tax 6,000 is high for $450,000 house, 5,000 is closer. +1,000 ********************* total is about 6,200. About 2-3 k will go into a 401 (k) at work or an IRA. With the mortgage interest and the property being deductible, taxes will be closer to 21,000. +6,700 ********* So now we have +12,900 With a few cut backs on nick nacks, employer paymne tof health insurance, etc. there sohould only be about 5-10 k unfunded. This can be covered by only 2% appreciation on the house, so what's your problem ? *********You've got the California picture right for people in their 20s-30s who have just bought a house. For quiet a few people, there is - 1) about 3-10 k transfer from parents each year, or 2)3-5 k gain on investments (usually capital gains) 3) Income earned in a third job (part time) or consulting - may 2-15 k 4) Employee bonuses or profit sharing at work - 1-8 k 5) Minor funds from resale of sports equipment, knik nacks, 'collectibles' etc. (ususally NOT high end equation of time items) maybe 0.5 to 2k

To: TobagoJack who wrote (51105)	6/19/2004 4:19:39 AM
From: RealMuLan	Respond to of 74559

The median household income in the US is only around $42,000. About 8% of all US households have USD 100,000 or more income seta.iastate.edu >>USD 250 Internet connection<< the regular price for Broadband connection in the US is at least $35/month (in big cities or in small cities during promotion period), it usually costs $50/month. So that would be $420-$600 a year. Although a local line sometimes could be cheaper, mine is about $200 a year. But the fix line is a prerequest for a DSL connection