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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (584104)6/19/2004 3:39:27 PM
From: Neeka  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Your lack of understanding of the issue is either specious or disingenuous. To not even realize that it is not a country, but a group of individuals organized to terrorize whole societies is your loss. (Maybe you should move to Spain, where they succeeded brilliantly).

Continue to deny that free people around the world have enemies that wish to destroy their societies.

It doesn't do your party any favors.

Yes, the 9/11 terrorists turned themselves and over 3000 innocent human beings into dust.....yes they did. And Saudi Arabia turned some of them into dust yesterday.....good for Saudi Arabia....I say about time, and let there be more dust making.



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (584104)6/19/2004 7:42:59 PM
From: Neeka  Respond to of 769670
 
Speaking of Spain:

This is soooooo true.

M

Sullivan's Travels
Roger Simon

In case anyone's interested... and they're probably not... though I came from a position several solar systems to the left of Andrew Sullivan before 9/11 and was participating in the Civil Rights Movement when he was around ten (and obviously back gay marriage, etc.), I am still supporting George W. Bush in the coming election. My basic reason is so simple and unsophisticated it's embarrassing to have to spell it out, but as I wrote in the comment section of another blog: If John Kerry is elected in November, it will be interpreted by the world as such a repudiation of the WOT it will make the electoral defeat in Spain seem like a student council defeat in Iowa.

Can you imagine what al-Qaeda and their myriad allies will do with that, how many recruits they will get? Not only have they got Europe running scared, they've got America as well. What Kerry thinks is beside the point. (His policy differences with Bush, such as I understand them, are miniscule anyway, compared to the world situation.)

Look, I imagine Andrew was having second thoughts himself when he saw this. Who wouldn't? Puts even the horrors of Abu Ghraib in something of a context (and our adversaries are not likely to be holding hearings or courts martial about it either). But this really is no surprise, is it? This stuff has been going on forever. If you want to see something that makes the decapitation of Mr. Johnson look tame, try the videos at that link. (Warning: satanic).

So I have to confess reading about Andrew's change made me wonder what had really happened to him. I mean we all have objections to the way the war and the post-war have been run, but it is equally true no one one really knows how it should have been run (or at least no one has been able to prove that to me). It's all in the land of hindsight is twenty-twenty--and in this case it's more like twenty-eighty. Furthermore, no one will know how successful this war has been for some time. Andrew is clearly intelligent enought to know that. So what's his game here? Of course, he's upset about the anti-gay marriage amendment, but surely, as GR has noted, he also understands how remote the possibility of passage. In any case, here's my prediction: John Kerry won't be the only one to flip-flop between now and the election.

rogerlsimon.com