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To: longnshort who wrote (137492)6/22/2004 1:55:59 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Indeed, Moore's affected and

ostentatious concern for black America is one of the most suspect ingredients of his pitch package. In a recent interview, he yelled that if the hijacked civilians of 9/11 had been black, they would have fought back, unlike the stupid and presumably cowardly white men and women (and children). Never mind for now how many black passengers were on those planes—we happen to know what Moore does not care to mention: that Todd Beamer and a few of his co-passengers, shouting "Let's roll," rammed the hijackers with a trolley, fought them tooth and nail, and helped bring down a United Airlines plane, in Pennsylvania, that was speeding toward either the White House or the Capitol. There are no words for real, impromptu bravery like that, which helped save our republic from worse than actually befell. The Pennsylvania drama also reminds one of the self-evident fact that this war is not fought only "overseas" or in uniform, but is being brought to our cities. Yet Moore is a silly and shady man who does not recognize courage of any sort even when he sees it because he cannot summon it in himself. To him, easy applause, in front of credulous audiences, is everything."

Hitchens



To: longnshort who wrote (137492)6/22/2004 1:56:08 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
No. I want you to back up what you said. Backing up what I say is my job, backing up what you say is yours- unless you run around backless...

I think it might change my mind about Moore, btw. When Andrew said he was willing to lie and that he could not imagine anything he would not stoop to, in furtherance of his cause, it changed my mind about him. I don't like that attitude in anyone. If Moore really didn't care if he lied, it would change my mind about him. I am under the impression he does care- although he does have a stilted POV- so you are wrong about why I asked. I don't think you can produce the quote- that's true enough- because I do think Moore cares about what he perceives the truth to be, so I don't think he said what you think he said.