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To: American Spirit who wrote (49638)6/23/2004 2:32:06 AM
From: Ruffian  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
you are clueless, the liberals have their "OWN" language, like the one in Oakland 2 tears ago................Ebonics? lol!



To: American Spirit who wrote (49638)6/23/2004 8:54:29 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
Michael Moore terrorizes the Bushies!
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The right wing is going all out to stop "Fahrenheit 9/11" -- but it's not working.

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By John Gorenfeld
Salon Premium
June 23, 2004

They're back! OK, the "vast right-wing conspiracy" Hillary Clinton warned about never really went away. But they've found new purpose in the campaign to stop the distribution of "Fahrenheit 9/11," Michael Moore's latest documentary. And just as the energetic conservative elves succeeded in making Bill Clinton ever more popular with the American public, so do they seem to be driving up public interest in Moore's film, which is expected to have the biggest opening for a documentary film ever, in a scheduled 888 theaters.

The convergence between the anti-Clinton and anti-Moore movements is personified by the tireless David Bossie, whose Citizens United made headlines savaging the president in the late 1990s. It's been a big week for Bossie and Citizens United. First they were busy producing anti-Clinton ads to run during the former president's star turn Sunday night on "60 Minutes," while Bossie was scurrying to cable studios to denounce the memoir "My Life" and promote his new book, "Intelligence Failure: How Clinton's National Security Policy Set the Stage for 9/11." Then Bossie scheduled a Wednesday press event in front of the Federal Election Commission, where he will demand that the commission take some sort of unspecified action to regulate the screening of "Fahrenheit 9/11" -- presumably because of the anti-Bush documentary's power to influence the coming presidential election. "Documents will be hand delivered to several government agencies immediately following the media briefing," the group's press release soberly states.

Anyone still wondering whether "Fahrenheit 9/11" has the far right squirming about the documentary's possible effect on the November presidential election?

Over the past week, attacks on the film reached fever pitch. They involved right-wing-conspiracy veterans like Bossie, but also some relative newcomers. So far the campaign doesn't seem to have hurt Moore. The real question is whether "Fahrenheit 911" can be anywhere as entertaining as the sometimes surreal campaign to derail it.

The Moore bashers include former California assemblyman Howard Kaloogian, whose Move America Forward launched a letter-writing campaign last week against a select number of theaters that planned to show "Fahrenheit." Kaloogian was part of a cabal that takes credit for recalling Gov. Gray Davis. Now they've set their sights on Moore.

"We've sent out probably well over 200,000 e-mails," says Melanie Morgan, a talk radio host, of the MAF campaign. With no small dose of glee, Morgan says of the cinemas targeted by MAF's letter-writing campaign: "We've been causing them an enormous amount of aggravation."

Such aggravation is hard to measure. No theaters have canceled showings of "Fahrenheit" at this point. And the MAF group doesn't seem to have had the most useful intelligence in its campaign. A lowly theater payroll employee inexplicably listed on MAF's e-mail list of "leading movie executives" is confused about how he became a central front in the War on Moore (he did not wish to be identified). As he sat in his office Friday, messages pinged into his in box. Dryly, he read aloud his favorites: "'I will never see a movie again' ... 'I will not support a business that aids a piece of crap sub-human like Moore in spreading his anti-american bullshit ...'"

More important, though, after the grass-roots political group MoveOn launched a counteroffensive, letters of support for the film's release began outpacing negative letters (according to an unscientific survey of five theater owners) at roughly 3-to-1. Jennifer Caleshu of the Little Theatre, in Rochester, N.Y., says she's received on the order of 3,000 e-mails. For every letter accusing her of soothing terrorists by showing the film, she says, seven are encouraging. Caleshu says that to every negative e-mail she's received she replies by quoting the First Amendment. "I've gotten some real personal hate mail back about that," she says.

MAF vice-chair Morgan blames the deep pockets and international tentacles of financier George Soros for backing MoveOn to support the movie. (The group says it has secured pledges from 109,000 people to see the movie when it opens.) But MAF itself has been dogged by reporting on its ties to conservative power brokers. An investigation by the Web site Whatreallyhappened.com, which snooped around MAF's domain registration info, revealed that it is no ordinary citizen's movement.

The webmasters were careless enough to leave the contact information for the Sacramento public relations firm Russo, Marsh and Rogers. That gave away the fact that the supposedly grass-roots Web site was the creation of one Douglas Lorenz. A Russo employee, Lorenz was the information-technology guy for Bill Simon, the candidate too conservative to beat ultra-unpopular then-Gov. Gray Davis in 2000. He's listed on the DefendReagan.org Web site (which rallied the fight against CBS's Reagan movie last year) as the "grassroots coordinator," apparently foreshadowing his role in creating the faux-grass-roots Move America Forward Web site. "Doug has been very active in developing volunteer political organizations," his bio says, "and utilizing advanced technologies to extend their reach." (Lorenz did not reply to Salon's request for an interview.) The P.R. firm's namesake, Sal Russo, was chief strategist of the Recall Gray Davis committee, and the firm itself has Republican ties that run far and deep.

For Kaloogian (who did not return calls from Salon for this story) the failure of Move America Forward represents a reversal. Seven months ago, Kaloogian spearheaded a nationwide campaign to have CBS's movie "The Reagans" yanked, calling for advertiser and audience boycotts. The movie was eventually ghettoized on the network's sister channel, Showtime (though CBS executives insisted, unconvincingly, they were unaffected by boycott threats). But other Kaloogian stunts have fizzled. His threatened recall of California's moderate attorney general over gay marriage went nowhere, and an accusation that Asian-American state assemblymen were violating their oaths of office for supporting Wen Ho Lee, the Los Alamos scientist falsely accused of being a spy, was widely dismissed. ("He's a mosquito on an elephant's back," says longtime California Democratic Party strategist Bob Mulholland of Kaloogian.)

It now seems that MAF is doing little more than providing free publicity for "Fahrenheit 9/11," whose tag line now smirks, "Controversy? What controversy?" But there have been a few bad breaks this week for "Fahrenheit." Moore wanted a PG-13 rating for the movie; the Motion Picture Association of America claims that certain "bad words" require it receive an R-rating. For one thing the word "motherfucker" is used more than once in the film, in the context of troops quoting the Bloodhound Gang radio single "The Roof Is on Fire." On Monday, writing on behalf of backers IFC Films and Bob and Harvey Weinstein's Fellowship Adventure Group, former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo released a letter questioning the MPAA's reasoning. Asked Cuomo: "[Why] should the film not be rated a PG-13 as was 'The Lord of the Rings,' a film that is saturated with slaughter, butchery and corpses -- human and extraterrestrial?" On Tuesday, the MPAA denied the appeal.

Then this week Newsweek published a report by reporter Michael Isikoff that accuses Moore, and author Craig Unger (author of "House of Bush, House of Saud," which was excerpted in Salon), of something close to "fanaticism" in a portion of the movie discussing how Osama bin Laden's family members were mysteriously spirited out of the country in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. Unger, writes Isikoff, "appears, claiming that bin Laden family members were never interviewed by the FBI. Not true, according to a recent report from the 9/11 panel," and the Newsweek author points out that the FBI found "[n]one had any links to terrorism."

But Unger says the article missed the point. "As I made clear to Isikoff on the phone, and should be clear in the movie, and is clear in my book," Unger says, "what did not take place was a serious criminal investigation into the murder of 3,000 people ... if you have a criminal investigation, you talk to innocent people." And there's no evidence, he says, that the FBI checked its own terror watch list before letting the bin Ladens depart.

Still, the film's opponents haven't given up. Most recently the MAF is promoting a report reprinted in the Guardian that the Lebanon-based militant group Hezbollah has endorsed "Fahrenheit." Gianluca Chacra, the managing director of Front Row Entertainment, the movie's distributor in the United Arab Emirates, confirms that Lebanese student members of Hezbollah "have asked us if there's any way they could support the film." While Hezbollah is considered a legitimate political party in many parts of the world, the U.S. State Department classifies the group as a terrorist organization. Chacra was unfazed, even excited, about their offer. "Having the support of such an entity in Lebanon is quite significant for that market and not at all controversial. I think it's quite natural." (Lion's Gate did not return calls asking for comment.) Adam Rubin, a spokesman for MoveOn, calls it "an utterly ridiculous distraction from the actual substance of the film."

Of course, you can always find an unpopular leader in the Middle East to fuel buzz about a movie someone doesn't want you to see. After all, Yasser Arafat loved Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ," which was so popular with right-wing Arafat haters and so unpopular among many Jews (Arafat's blurb-ready review of Gibson's movie: "Moving"). In the end, Moore's movie will be judged by how many Americans turn out to see his film. And after the attacks and counterattacks of the last week, that number only grew.

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About the writer:
John Gorenfeld is a freelance writer in San Francisco.

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To: American Spirit who wrote (49638)6/23/2004 9:26:04 AM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
It looks like you are victim to the tag-team assult.

This dude is probably on the payroll of the RNC to disrupt chat groups. He doesn' have time to devote more than a sentence fragment or else he would have to read for content.

TP



To: American Spirit who wrote (49638)6/23/2004 10:02:43 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
NY Promoter Wants Springsteen to Upstage Bush

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NEW YORK - A New York concert promoter has mounted an online campaign to "draft" Bruce Springsteen to headline a rock 'n roll show to upstage the Republican National Convention on the night it nominates President Bush to run for another term.

The "Concert for Change," would be held Sept. 1 at Giants Stadium, across the Hudson River from the Republicans' meeting at Madison Square Garden, said promoter and Democratic activist Andrew Rasiej, who has reserved the date at Springsteen's New Jersey home venue that he routinely sells out when he tours.

"This is a simple idea that captures the imagination of Americans opposed to George Bush," Rasiej told Reuters.

An online petition at www.draftbruce.com has been signed by about 50,000 people in 10 days since it was launched, Rasiej said, adding he had also reached out to acts such as REM, The Dave Matthews Band, Bob Dylan and Carlos Santana.

"When it gets to half a million or so I would formally try to deliver the petition to Bruce's people directly," he said.

"I've spoken to the manager of REM, to Bon Jovi's people and the rest of the names I've mentioned and they all said, 'if you build it, we will be there."'

Rasiej said he envisions drawing a big TV audience, but only if he can get a star of the magnitude of Springsteen to get on board and encourage other big acts to take part.

Springsteen's publicist was not available for comment.

Republicans and Democrats both asked to use his 1984 hit "Born in the U.S.A." -- a song about how unwelcoming America was to returning Vietnam veterans but often mistaken for a patriotic anthem -- for use in political campaigns. Springsteen declined the requests.

The New Jersey rocker has typically stayed out of politics, but in May posted the text of an anti-war speech by former Vice President Al Gore on his official Web site, calling it "one of the most important speeches I've heard in a long time."

Rasiej, founder of popular New York rock club Irving Plaza, said a "VoteAid" show could win a large TV audience, raise money to support voter registration and deliver a message that could affect the November presidential election.

© Copyright 2004 Reuters Ltd

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To: American Spirit who wrote (49638)6/23/2004 10:33:26 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Kerry Should Claim the Reagan Mantle
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by Larry Beinhart

Published on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 by the Baltimore Sun

SO THE REPUBLICANS - not just the Republicans, most of America - just had this orgy of posthumous Reaganism.

All my knee-jerk liberal friends were appalled. The standard refrain was, "That's not the Reagan I remember." There were various specifics: "He busted unions." "He was against the environment." "He traded arms for hostages." "He couldn't tell the difference between movies and reality." "He supported death squads all over Central America."

But nobody listened to the liberals. As usual.

The media, yea, the whole nation, seemed to speak, once again, with a single voice. It was a voice of adulation and adoration.

Mr. Reagan is to the right and to the center what Franklin Delano Roosevelt was to the left and to the center. That's powerful stuff. Let's stop complaining about it and learn from it. We can learn from it because there was, in fact, a separation between the love of Mr. Reagan and the love of his policies. If you were to make a list, like the one above, and you asked one of those people who traveled 1,000 miles to view the coffin if he loved those policies and those choices, he would say, "Of course not."

We should listen to the people who said they loved Mr. Reagan and listen to why they loved him.

Optimism was big on the list. Praising America (telling us we're great) was big on the list. The warmth, the courtesy, the friendliness, the masculinity and the appeal to family values (though he was our first divorced president, and while he was president, his children appeared to hate him). Almost none of them speak of policy.

Let Democrats do what Mr. Reagan did. Mr. Reagan put on the mantle of Franklin Roosevelt; let our candidate put on the mantle of Ronald Reagan.

Let John Kerry - since he appears to be the man in the saddle - say that he, not President Bush, is the true heir to Ronald Reagan. Let Mr. Kerry say that Mr. Reagan was a populist and flexible and a pragmatist, like real Americans are, and that Mr. Bush is an elitist and an ideologue and a prisoner of bad ideas.

Mr. Reagan came in and tried tax cuts. They worked in some ways, but didn't work in others, so he raised taxes. He went to war in Grenada, where he could get in and get out, but he backed out of Lebanon because he had the sense to know it would be a mess - even though we had been the victims of a terrorist attack there.

Mr. Bush put in his wars and his tax cuts because he is an elitist and just wants to make money for the big money elite even if he has to rob everybody else to do it - not to get America moving again, the way Mr. Reagan did it. Now that the war and the tax policies are creating a mess, Mr. Bush doesn't know how to get out of it because he's no Ronald Reagan.

Mr. Reagan respected other people. Even while he was calling the Soviet Union the evil empire, he was reaching out to Mikhail S. Gorbachev and becoming his friend and he was backing away from confrontation toward reconciliation. Can anyone imagine President Bush doing that? Mr. Bush can't even do it with the French.

It's not about policies. People don't vote for policies. They certainly don't fall in love over policies.

It's about feelings. It's about morning in America. Mr. Bush has taken us off into the darkness, into some strange neo-conservative nightmare, where Americans torture people and take away their rights and the budget is spiraling out of control. Now it's time to wake from this terrible dream and return to who we really are, to return to being the kind of America that Ronald Reagan loved and exemplified.

That's what we have to learn from this love of Mr. Reagan. That's what we should do with it.
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Larry Beinhart is the author of American Hero, on which the movie Wag the Dog was based. He lives in Woodstock, N.Y.

Copyright © 2004, The Baltimore Sun

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