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To: Orcastraiter who wrote (10051)	6/23/2004 1:37:41 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

But since not all terrorist acts are committed by Muslim extremists, than that too would be reason for them not to panic. Ah, but clearly that was not the thinking at the time. This was fairly soon after the 1st WTC bombing, remember? The press and people were quite ready to blame the extremeist Muslims for terrorist acts. Assuming the Saudis were ignorant of this is simplistic, I'd say. The people involved weren't a bunch of camel milkers; they's been around and it was their job to keep track of world events and US attitudes. Feb 26, 1993: 1st WTC bombing April 19, 1995: OK CIty bombing Here's an interesting one: Septemeber 10, 2001: Amr Elgindy, a notorious inside trader on the financial markets, orders his broker to liquidate his children's $300,000 trust account fearing a sudden crash in the market the next day. He tells his stock broker that the Dow Jones average, then at 9,600, will fall to below 3,000. Elgindy is later arrested along with two FBI agents. Government prosecutors claim the FBI agents were using their FBI positions to feed him inside information on various corporations. They also claim Elgindy had foreknowledge about the 9/11 attacks. billstclair.com Elgindy, of course, is our own Anthony@Pacific. September 13-19: Members of bin Laden's family and important Saudis are flown out of the US. The New York Times explains, "The young members of the bin Laden clan were driven or flown under FBI supervision to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington from where they left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks." A Tampa Tribune article describes a flight carrying Saudi royalty from Tampa, Florida to Lexington, Kentucky on September 13, while the ban on all nonmilitary flights in the US is still in effect. Witnesses describe multiple 747's with Arabic lettering on their sides are already in Lexington, suggesting another secret assembly point. It appears that the FBI were able to only interview the bin Ladens and Saudis only briefly, if at all. The existence of such flights during this ban is now unfortunately often called an urban legend. The "urban legend" part is, of course, crap. I specifically remember news reports of those flights soon after 911. And I'd guess by the 19th it was known that a large number of the hijackers were Saudis. But no proof yet. "On the afternoon of Sept. 13, 2001, three Saudi men in their early 20s flew in a Lear jet from Tampa, Fla., to Lexington, Ky., where they boarded a Boeing 747 with Arabic writing on it waiting to take them out of the country. The flight from Tampa to Lexington was first reported in the Tampa Tribune in October 2001. "Earlier that day, the FAA had issued a notice that private aviation was banned and that three private planes that had violated the ban had been forced to land by military aircraft, according to an article late last year in Vanity Fair. "The flight from Tampa to Lexington was one of several flights that Saudi Arabian citizens took in the immediate aftermath of September 11, 2001 when the rest of the country was prohibited from flying. Many of the Saudis were members of the Saudi royal family or the bin Laden family. "The New York Times has reported that bin Laden family members were driven or flown under FBI supervision to a secret meeting in Texas and then to Washington, from where they left the country when airports were allowed to open Sept. 14, 2001. "Overall," Bolton writes, "close to 140 Saudis left the U.S. days after the attacks, even though 15 of the 19 terrorists who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks were Saudi Arabian." disinfopedia.org Now: I do remember mention of bin Laden coming up fairly quickly after 911. And, this, if you look at it, contradicts the stories that the hijackers names were not on the passenger manifests: worldhistory.com