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To: epicure who wrote (137788)	6/24/2004 1:16:25 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 281500

Of course the whole idea that the US has "colonized" Iraq is so preposterous as to be laughable....it is a pretext created by Bush hating morons for denying the credit Mr. Bush is due for liberating 25 million people from a brutal and repressive regime and at least giving those same people a chance to live in peace and freedom......sure...lots can still go wrong.....but Saddam and the threat he posed to those people, the region and the world are gone....and Iraqis have at least a shot at reasonable self governance.... JLA

To: epicure who wrote (137788)	6/24/2004 1:22:01 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I gave grounds for thinking that democratization would be supported by most Iraqis; for thinking it could be assimilated to them culturally; and for worrying that insecurity could scuttle the whole project. None of this depended on comparisons with Germany or Japan, and none of it predicted inevitable success. You seem not to get the main exchange here: he says "we liberated Europe. We invaded and occupied Iraq." But, of course, we invaded and occupied Germany and Italy, and, for that matter, Vichy France. So if he wants to call them "liberated", he may as well call Iraq liberated.