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To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (137864)	6/24/2004 6:14:25 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 281500

Deconditioned may, indeed, be better, although there may have been enough disillusionment to greet the Allies with relief that Hitler was no longer in power. Certainly the Italians, who liked Mussolini, but had no special desire to enter the war, were fed up by the time we hit the beaches at Anzio. Most of the Italian troops wouldn't fight, it was really the German reinforcements that slowed the Allied advance, and townspeople would great the Americans as liberators. I do not want to be too digressive, but there is some bearing insofar as we have the problem of surmounting indoctrination. It is my belief that ideology cannot rationalize indefinitely, so that for the mass of people who are not mentally ill, reality will force change. The Germans supported Hitler because he seemed a man of destiny, someone who brought prosperity, honor, and military victory to their country. His mystique was the lynchpin of the system. Once it became clear that he was not a man of destiny, but was driving Germany into ruin, the bomb plots started. The big turning points were Stalingrad and the success in establishing a beach head in Normandy. Similarly, it is when it is apparent that all of these suicidal tactics are only buying terrorists more pain, and that Allah is not favoring them against the Great Satan, that the tide will turn. People will give up their lives for a cause, but rarely for one that seems futile. As I pointed out in a much earlier post a few weeks ago, the failure of the Ghost Dance movement, and particularly of the Ghost Shirt, which was supposed to protect native warriors from Army bullets, spelled the end of native American resistance to the forces of government. Illusions rise, but they also fall........