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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Solon who wrote (80788)6/25/2004 11:18:54 AM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486
 
At no time and in no way have I claimed to have the right to do anything to others, though you have accused me of wanting to every kind of heinous act from sexually abusing others to violating the civil liberties of others and now to rule the world.

It is sad that you once again have resorted to convoluting a discussion rather than discuss the topic and its merits. This is your M.O. ... convolute a discussion, demonize the person you are having a discussion with and go off on a name calling self righteous tirade.

I am sorry that you do that because you obviously have a higher ability to discuss philosophical issues. This one was apparently too much of a challenge.

Anyway here is my presentation again in a nutshell. Feel free to pitch another fit or deal with it as an intelligent being which ever suits you.

"I have the natural right to freedom of conscience. Whenever you construct societal laws which encumber one member to provide a shield of opportunity to another you create a quagmire of litigious contention that mires in irresolvable conflicts. This is what we have in our current culture of societal co-existence. We are at a point in our social evolution where we should be ready to move beyond that.

I have the natural right to freedom of conscience, liberty, and to be treated justly by others. There is no contradiction in terms here and there is no circumstance where one natural right needs to be trumped by any other or consequated by another; since they are not separated entities but terms that are enmeshed with one another to form a concept. When you understand this you will be able to perceive a system of natural justice for all that can be supported by societal laws which never violate any of these three components of freedom...."

From the above you can not rationally conclude that I have proclaimed the right to do anything that is a violation of other people's natural right(s). Of course if you want to rant on in irrationality feel free...