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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (585218)6/25/2004 7:18:02 AM
From: John Carragher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Secret Service comments
(email recd.)

I just received this and thought it worth passing along .. since I believe it confirms what we have observed.

This came to me via an old friend, a person I trust. We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents plane--- [yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates", and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ol boy" womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety. The information below is accurate. Bush 41 and the current president Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the aircrews who fly them around [When the president flies, there are several planes that also go--one carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft] and both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so these Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.

Subject: Secret Service Viewpoints

(WHAT WAS, COULD HAVE BEEN, AND WHAT IS)

WHAT WAS:

Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security
detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries
with them. Sometimes Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and
mean spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries
regardless, but never in her mother presence. Chelsea really was a nice,
kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that
Chelsea loved her mom but did not like her.

Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were
charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their
job, as professionals should, but they all "loathed" her and wanted to
be on a different detail. She was hard work because she was so nasty and
mean toward her detail. Hillary Clinton was uniformly despised by the
Secret Service as a whole.

Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife
Hillary. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attack
antics that Hillary would use against her husband, the then President.
They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which
she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret
Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors
Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could
hear what she was saying.

Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he
tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was
crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other
and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was
genuinely a "marriage of convenience."

Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the
Lewinsky scandal which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have
"charisma," and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his
security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of
superiority towards them. His security detail uniformly believed him to
be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in
some way would enhance his image and political career. They did respect
him, unlike his wife, but they did not particularly like him and nobody
trusted him. He was polite, but not kind.

WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN:

Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were more
friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former
President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in.
They were very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice
and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election
she had her "pegged" and no longer liked her or associated with her
except for events that were politically obligatory.

Al Gore was far more left wing and very hateful, not just politically
opposed, to Republicans than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton
and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His
hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the
Presidency. This bitter hatred was something that he and Hillary had
very much in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of
their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the
Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton. Bill
Clinton did have some good qualities where Al Gore and Hillary had none
in the view of their security details.

Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security
detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold
them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they
had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them in disgust as they
finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion when Al Gore
got angry at his offspring and loudly, in their presence, pointed at his
security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?"

Word of this insulting and demeaning verbiage by the former
Vice-President quickly spread and he became as despised and disliked by
the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed that Al Gore would
not be elected President and they really did have private small
celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was
not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate
Al Gore's defeat. He was much disliked. Al Gore was not a good and kind
person. That he could have been our President may suggest that God was
"answering prayers" and looking out for the country with Al Gore's defeat.

WHAT IS:

Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's
detail. Without exception, they uniformly concede that she is perhaps
the most nice, kind, and genuinely good person they have ever had the
privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her
picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even
have to be asked, she offers.

She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often,
she will give members of her detail a kind-hearted hug to express her
appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine
nature. Laura Bush really is this kind of a person and her security
detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They actually love
her as a human being. They joke that comparing Laura Bush with
Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked

Witch of the North."

Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a
man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he
always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the
Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has
a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he helps in serving them their
meals. He eats with them, sits with them, and talks with them. He always
asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers, and he
of course, knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by
their first name as a show of affection.

They believe that he actually loves his security detail and that he is
deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like,
love, or respect anyone more than President Bush, and most of them did
not know they would feel this way until they had an opportunity to work
for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has
never changed in the three years that he has been President. He always
treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.



To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (585218)6/25/2004 11:02:44 AM
From: Srexley  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
"... And, that's if you fully believe the INC's document"

Don't you guys see the danger in fully believing Saddam Hussein, a brutal dictator with an avowed hatred of the United States over our President and intelligence services? You'r so damn positive there is no way he would collaberate with terrorists that you even discount it when evidence is shown. You smugly act as though you KNOW there is NO WAY Saddam would do this. Same with WMD's. We haven't found the stockpiles (although about a dozen shells have been found with Sarin and Mustard gas) so that is proof positive to you that there is NO WAY he would have them. No collabertion or WMD's to you guys so no danger to the U.S. in a post 9-11 world. Can you imagine if the President did nothing (except let the corrupt U.N. bumble around Iraq) and a WMD attack happened on the U.S.? You guys would be HOWLING for the President's head.

But as it is you are howling for his head because he is doing something about the problem. And helping 25 million people in the process. I don't like that you guys will gamble America's safety because of your hatred for our President. Don't like it at all.