To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (138100 ) 6/27/2004 5:06:39 AM From: Sig Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 <<<When the New World Order architects at the Council on Foreign Relations prattle about sovereignty, they mean something entirely different from independent nation-states. I will merely repeat that we are at present working, discreetly but with all our might, to wrest this mysterious political force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local national states of our world. And all the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands.... — Arnold J. Toynbee Historian, Royal Institute of International Affairs, 1931 >>> Words that are as true today as when they were written. But few would argue that it is time to go global and restrict the sovereignty (internal workings) of countries that severely damage others outside their borders. I find it interesting that Saddam did not burn the oil fields. That would be equivalent to our burning crop lands to shut off food supplies to the East. Depletion of fishing grounds, damming of rivers, pollution of space with nuclear material, pollution of the oceans or fresh water lakes, denuding forests. Drug trade and immigration or refugee movement. Hauling oil in single-hulled tankers, or continuing to build them. Pure sovereignty does not exist any more except in the remotest areas. But Iraq will gain the important ability to deal with other nations as a sole entity. The ability to write and honor contracts, form trade agreements, set up their internal legal system. Will they be sovereign enough to ask the US to leave and resort to civil wars and with Saudi Arabia under attack, no oil from Iraq? That would be a wonderful problem for the UN , so lets hope they are merely sovereign, not stupid. Sig