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Politics : Fahrenheit 9/11: Michael Moore's Masterpiece -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kirk © who wrote (703)	6/27/2004 10:22:06 AM
From: epicure	Respond to of 2772

The fact the the Democrats were wrong too, does not justify Bush going to war and being wrong. It just means our government really sucks, on both sides- and our young men and women in the armed forces can expect to be sent to crappy battlegrounds, all over the globe, for no very good reason, no matter who is in charge. The lesson for young people? Don't join the military.

To: Kirk © who wrote (703)	6/27/2004 12:34:43 PM
From: DOUG H	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2772

Does Moore point out ANY of that in his op-ed piece? Are all these people on oil company payrolls? We all know the answer to that, don't we??? One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is the bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program". President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions(including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspected Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter sent to President Clinton, signed by Sen. Carl Levin, Tom Dashle, John Kerry, and others. Oct. 9, 1998 "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Sept. 27, 2002 "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-if necessary-to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our country." Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA), Oct. 9, 2002 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorist, including al Qaeda members..it is clear, however, that if left unchecked. Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Oct. 10, 2002 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL), Dec. 8, 2002 "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime...He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation...and now he is calculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction...So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA), Jan. 23, 2003

To: Kirk © who wrote (703)	6/27/2004 4:05:35 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 2772

Why was Bush in a rush to invade Iraq? We had Iraq surrounded, in a box, with UN inspectors getting unprecdented access. Also we had not taken the time to build a real coalition or get UN support for an invasion. Finally, the Bush administration never worked out a post-invasion plan. Or if they did it was not a realistic one. What was the big rush? Everyone agreed Saddam was a menace, but he was not an imminent threat the way Bush told us, and he was not in league withy Al Qaida or involved in 9-11. Quoting democrats as saying Saddam had WMD's or was dangerous missses the point. You don't just start a war based on a belief someone might have weapons, especially when uyou already have them surrounded and are inspecting them.