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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Bill who wrote (586160)	6/28/2004 6:37:41 PM
From: Doren	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Moore is ready for your criticism: michaelmoore.com I for one have not seen the movie yet. However I have seen no plausible or believable disputations of the facts presented in the film only disputations of the implications of the facts. Of course I, like anyone with their own brain, will decide what the implications mean. That seems to be the main dispute of the right wingers. Not the facts but the interpretations of the facts. That is why they wish to censor the film. They do not believe the American people are intelligent enough to make their own decisions. They do not even believe their own belief systems can withstand the facts so they, like lemmings proudly proclaim "I won't see it!" as if ignorance is a desirable trait. Come to think of it it was the Catholic Church that insisted the world was flat well into the 20th century.

To: Bill who wrote (586160)	6/28/2004 8:29:59 PM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

What the movie says is this: "It turns out that the White House approved planes to pick up the bin Ladens and numerous other Saudis. At least six private jets and nearly two dozen commercial planes carried the Saudis and the bin Ladens out of the U.S. after September 13th. In all, 142 Saudis, including 24 members of the bin Laden family, were allowed to leave the country." These facts are based entirely on the findings contained in the 9/11 commission draft report, which states, "After the airspace reopened, six chartered flights with 142 people, mostly Saudi Arabian nationals, departed from the United States between September 14 and 24. One flight, the so-called Bin Ladin flight, departed the United States on September 20 with 26 passengers, most of them relatives of Usama Bin Ladin." National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Threats and Responses in 2001, Staff Statement No. 10, The Saudi Flights, p. 12; Isikoff claims that Fahrenheit 9/11 says that these flights out of the country took place when commercial airplanes were still grounded. The film does not say this anywhere. The film states clearly that these flights left after September 13 (the day the FAA began to slowly lift the ban on air traffic).