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To: E. T. who wrote (192167)6/29/2004 12:05:00 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576380
 
"but under Sharon, they will not do that."
It's been said a thousand times before. Arafat elected Sharon. Arafat was at the negotiating table with Barak and Clinton and started his suicide bombing campaign. That brought the vote out for Sharon.


The Israelis have a way of making their problems someone else's fault. They are very good at it....lining up all the facts that support their position.

At least with Israel the political climate changes with each election or at least it can. But Arafat, gosh, we'll have to wait for him to die or go senile. Until then....

And then will the settlements in the WB get dismantled, and Israel will give back control of the water under the WB, and the Palestinians will be allowed to have their state?

Trust me when I tell you that I am not holding my breath.



To: E. T. who wrote (192167)7/2/2004 12:53:27 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576380
 
<font color=brown> This is just one example of the crap Israel has been pulling for years and that some people choose to ignore. Fortunately, the Bush administration is watching the situation closely. Its stuff like this that adds fuel to the fire of the intifada.<font color=black>

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U.S. Rebukes Israel on West Bank Outposts

U.S. Officials Rebuke Israeli List of Unauthorized West Bank Outposts That Were to Be Dismantled

The Associated Press

JERUSALEM July 1, 2004 — An Israeli list of its unauthorized West Bank outposts drew a public rebuke Thursday from U.S. officials, who said Israel is failing to keep a promise to dismantle dozens of the enclaves. Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported Thursday that the Israeli list includes 28 outposts, 16 of which are in the process of receiving government approval. A senior Israeli government official declined to comment on the report, but confirmed that the list had been handed to U.S. officials.



Paul Patin, a spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv, criticized Israel, saying: "You can't create an illegal outpost one day and subsequently declare that it's legal."

American officials have expressed growing impatience with Israel over the West Bank outposts. Under the U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan, endorsed in June 2003, Israel is required to dismantle dozens of outposts.

But it has removed only a small number, and scores dot the barren hilltops of the West Bank. Some have grown into small communities, with synagogues, playgrounds and state-funded roads.


The United States and the Palestinians have criticized the outposts as seeds of future settlements that prejudge peace negotiations.

Israel already has established some 150 established settlements, home to 230,000 Israelis, in the West Bank.

The Palestinians hope to establish an independent state in all of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.


U.S. Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer last week called on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to fulfill a commitment to dismantle the outposts.

Kurtzer noted that Israeli officials had pledged to turn over a list of outposts to the United States within 30 days after Sharon visited the White House in April.

The Israeli official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the Israeli Defense Ministry presented an outpost list to Kurtzer earlier this week.

"Joint teams will now be established between the Ministry of Defense and Ambassador Kurtzer's office to determine which of the outposts is legal and which is not," he said.

Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz, meanwhile, ordered the army to review the route of the unbuilt section of Israel's separation barrier in the West Bank, security officials said on condition of anonymity. Only one quarter has been built.

Mofaz proposed the review in a meeting with senior security officials Thursday, a day after Israel's Supreme Court ordered the government to reroute a key segment near Jerusalem.

The court said the original path would have caused too much hardship to thousands of Palestinians and violated international law.

Later Thursday, Sharon met Mofaz and Israel's justice minister to discuss the ramifications of the Supreme Court ruling on the barrier. A government official said Sharon made no decisions, telling Mofaz to come back with detailed proposals.

Security officials say Mofaz wants army experts to review the unbuilt three-fourths of the 425 mile barrier to make sure it meets the court's criteria.

Israel has long maintained that the barrier is crucial for keeping out Palestinian attackers who have killed hundreds of Israelis in nearly four years of fighting.

Palestinians say the divider, which at times dips deep into the West Bank, amounts to a land grab.

Next week, the world court at The Hague, Netherlands, is to issue an advisory ruling on the barrier's route, at the request of the Palestinians.

In new fighting in the Gaza Strip, Israeli soldiers killed five Palestinian gunmen in a shootout near the main road, the army said. Elsewhere, a 9-year-old Palestinian boy was killed by Israeli army fire.

photo credit and caption: Palestinian residents look on while a bulldozer destroys an olive grove as they prepare the terrain to build a section of Israel's separation barrier in the village of Sawahra in the south-east outskirts of Jerusalem, Thursday, July 1, 2004. Construction of Israel's contentious West Bank separation barrier goes on, a day after Israel's Supreme Court ordered the government to move 30 kilometers (20 miles) of the barrier near Jerusalem. About a quarter of the 680-kilometer (425-mile) barrier, which dips deep into the West Bank in some sections, has been completed. (AP Photo/Enric Marti)

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.



abcnews.go.com



To: E. T. who wrote (192167)7/6/2004 12:12:32 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1576380
 
<font color=brown> We are constantly harrassing nations that are working with atomic materials, trying to get them into compliance with world standards and to keep them from developing nuclear weaponry. Meanwhile, Israel insists on being left alone re. its atomic status and we say little if anything at all.<font color=black>

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Sharon: Israel Will Not Change Policy of Nuclear Ambiguity

VOA News
06 Jul 2004, 13:18 UTC



Ariel Sharon
Israeli radio says the government plans to maintain its official policy of "nuclear ambiguity" as it prepares for talks with the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency.
The report quotes Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as saying Israel will not change its "no show, no tell" nuclear policy, and that the government will ensure the country has all the necessary weapons to protect itself.

IAEA Director Mohammed ElBaradei is due to arrive in Israel Tuesday for a two-day visit.

Diplomats say he is expected to promote the concept of a nuclear free zone in the Middle East.

Israel neither acknowledges nor denies having nuclear weapons. But experts widely believe the Jewish state has a stockpile of nuclear warheads.

Some information for this report provided by AP and AFP.

voanews.com



To: E. T. who wrote (192167)7/6/2004 2:44:49 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1576380
 
Tuesday, July 6, 2004 · Last updated 11:03 a.m. PT

Israel police minister warns on extremists

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

JERUSALEM -- Israel's police minister warned Tuesday that Jewish extremists are plotting to assassinate leading politicians or security officials once the government starts removing settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

The comments by the minister, Tsahi Hanegbi, marked the starkest forecast yet about possible violence by militants. Earlier this week, the head of the Shin Bet security service set off a political storm when he said he was concerned about growing militancy among those opposed to the removal of settlements.

Settler leaders and rabbis in the West Bank and Gaza Strip accused the Shin Bet chief Avi Dichter of incitement. However, some prominent settlers and rabbis have said the evacuation of settlers is a crime, implying that violent resistance is justified.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon plans to remove some 8,000 settlers from their homes in 2005 - 7,500 from all of Gaza and about 500 from four small West Bank settlements. Sharon acknowledged Monday that he feels at risk.

Hanegbi told Israel TV's Channel Two on Tuesday that he was concerned about growing violence. "I have no doubt ... that there are people who have already decided that, when the time comes, they will save the people of Israel," he said. "They will assassinate the prime minister, a minister, an army official or a police official ... They don't always succeed and they don't always have the means to carry out the acts. But we are not lacking extremists."

In 1995, an ultranationalist Jew opposed to the transfer of land to the Palestinians assassinated then-Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.

seattlepi.nwsource.com



To: E. T. who wrote (192167)7/6/2004 4:25:39 PM
From: Thomas M.  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1576380
 
Arafat was at the negotiating table with Barak and Clinton and started his suicide bombing campaign.

Arafat has no connection to the suicide bombing campaign. Furthermore, the suicide bombing campaign was a reaction to Israel slaughtering Palestinians.

Tom