To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (18017 ) 6/29/2004 3:56:04 PM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931 That's good then , and not warmongering as you said but just the opposite coming out of the Cato Institute:In November 2002, shortly after Cato was named the "Best Advocacy Website" by the Web Marketing Association, the Alexa ratings service issued a report saying that it was "the most popular think tank site over the past three months," receiving a total of 188,901 unique visitors during the previous month of September. [1] Philip Morris CEO Geoffrey Bible and media mogul Rupert Murdoch have both served on the board of directors of Cato, which has numerous ties to the Republican Party. However, Cato has sometimes differed with Republican Party positions on specific issues, such as the 2003 decision by U.S. President George W. Bush to go to war with Iraq. Cato has also criticized the 1998 settlement that many U.S. states signed with the tobacco industry. * On Cato the Elder , the last of the "old Romans" might give you some insights into the changing world of 200BC....Cato hated the wealthy indulgent money grubbing nuevo rich that adopted many Greek and oriental tastes for luxuory & extravagance, and hated the helenist sophist philosophers and their greasy beards that promoted such idle habits of epicurian delights ...he also prophesied the fall of Rome due to overindulgence of the idle classesbarca.fsnet.co.uk Happily for Cato’s peace of mind, he died before the casino with its cachucha—or cancan, or whatever it might have been—was introduced, and before the fashions of Asia had been added to those of Greece. But he lived long enough to see the Graeco-maniacs triumphant. In earlier and happier days he had been able to expel two philosophers from Rome, but now he saw them swarming in the streets with their ragged cloaks and greasy beards, and everywhere obtaining seats as domestic chaplains at the tables of the rich. He could now do no more than protest in his bitter and extravagant style against the corruption of the age. He prophesied that as soon as Rome had thoroughly imbibed the Greek philosophy she would lose the empire of the world; he declared that Socrates was a prating, seditious fellow who well deserved his fate; and he warned his son to beware of the Greek physicians, for the Greeks had laid a plot to kill all the Romans, and the doctors had been deputed to put it into execution with their medicines. Those damned radical hippie~ Greek Philosophers....give me the good old time roman religion ! ;-) PS: Saw over 100,000 people up in Northern California attend NasCar races per day , which in a world concerned with oil and gas shortages might seem a bit overindulgent and incongruous with the present world scenario...but they love speed here in the good old USA , and has reached epidemic proportions. Very troubling future being born with that renewed usage again ... <G>