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Politics : Fahrenheit 9/11: Michael Moore's Masterpiece -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: DayTraderKidd who wrote (1168)	6/29/2004 5:48:56 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2772

Hmmm It is hard for me to place that much blame on limited people. After all, many of those limited and unsophisticated people have sent their children into Iraq- so I have a hard time placing all the blame on them. That woman in Moore's film, for example, it's hard to blame her completely- you know? I have compassion for her- and especially because she changed her mind on the issue after her son died. It's hard enough to lose a son, but to lose a son and then come to realize that he died for a stupid cause must be terrible. So while I wish people had more intelligence and education, the people who should shoulder the blame when things go badly wrong, are the leaders. I know we are supposed to believe in democracy, but quite frankly people are not intelligent enough to make it really work, and we get leaders from both sides of the political spectrum that are usually the product of big money interests- they are in the pockets of the people who give them the millions to spend on their campaigns- there is no one looking out for the little people in the electorate (though both sides will rubber lip about how they are looking out for the little guy- it's great propaganda). Hardly anyone reads books, and fewer and fewer people read newspapers, and an informed electorate is crucial to any country that has voting (if you want the voting to mean anything.) It's damn depressing.

To: DayTraderKidd who wrote (1168)	6/29/2004 5:51:00 PM
From: Mao II	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 2772

The unidentified villains of F/911 are the members of the mainstream press who have, for the most part, performed as adjuncts of the executive branch. There are some exceptions, and more are slowly emerging; but the runup to war was incited and excited -- as Moore suggests -- by the media: CBS, NBC, ABC news, CNN, the news weeklies and the national papers, the NYT, Wash Post, LA Times. Generally a pathetic performance. The same thing happened during Watergate. Only the fact that Woodward and Bernstein were beat reporters from the burbs and didnt know any better saved the Post. Now, we can thank -- yet again -- Sy Hersh for redeeming his colleagues. M2