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To: alan w who wrote (37793)	7/1/2004 6:14:29 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Jesus said: 'They reject me because they reject Moses' 'If they would accept Moses they would accept me, because Moses spoke of me' We have our free will to accept or reject Christ. To be sure, God is also the author of our wills and the grace to choose, but he does give us the choice otherwise we would be mere robots. You voluntarily choose to lie, falsely judge, and follow the promptings of antichrist rruff. He tells you to slander or libel me, and you obey. Don't tell me that God made you do it. You do it because you have evil in your heart.

To: alan w who wrote (37793)	7/1/2004 6:26:34 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

Your entire theology is captive to one or two verses in St. Paul that revolves around "all Jews will be saved" and "it is God's intention that they fail to believe". It's as if your spiritual develpment has been arrested by this cultic belief! I will will try again to free you from your Judaizin ideas The verses you speak of were written 2000 years ago and were fuflilled shortly after they were written--in the next hundred or so years. The Gentiles have already come into the Church. The Jews and Gentiles who accepted Christ formed the NEW ISRAEL of God. It is improper to call Christians of today Gentiles. Gentile means non-believers of the nations. The Christians of today have two parallel genetic strains--the ancient Jews and the ancient non-Jews who converted to Christ. The scriptures that you quote have already been fulfilled. All of Israel never meant that every single Jew would convert but rather that every genetic Jew with the faith of Abraham would convert. You are living in a foolish time warp created by the cult of Christian Zionism and Talmudic Judaism. For the last two thousand years the Israel of God is the Christian people. Read your entire New and Old Testament, and quite focusing on only a couple of verses. As a Christian you should be focused on the Church (the Israel of the New Covenant) and Christ. Instead you are focused on the flesh of the modern Talmudic Jews and Israel. You are deceived big time. READ THE ENTIRE SCRIPTURES WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE. DO NOT FOCUS ON ONLY A COUPLE OF VERSES IN ROMANS. BRING THE ENTIRE REVELATION OF GOD INTO FOSCUS AND YOU WILL LOOSE YOUR CULTIC SPIRITUAL MYOPIA.

To: alan w who wrote (37793)	7/1/2004 6:34:09 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

"The body of Christ is not spiritual Israel. It's just that in your carnal state you can't see this Emile" If you lack an understanding of this simple principle, how can you call yourself a Chrsitian? Romans 2 28: For he is not a real Jew who is one outwardly, nor is true circumcision something external and physical. 29: He is a Jew who is one inwardly, and real circumcision is a matter of the heart, spiritual and not literal. His praise is not from men but from God. Galatians 3 27: For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29: And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. Colossians 3 9: Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old nature with its practices 10: and have put on the new nature, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator. 11: Here there cannot be Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scyth'ian, slave, free man, but Christ is all, and in all. So what are you saying Alan? Are you saying that you are NOT an heir to Abraham? Are you saying that you are NOT a Jews as the Holy Spirit explicitly says in Romans and Galatians?