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To: Joe NYC who wrote (192926)	7/1/2004 10:11:15 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577594

But an outside possibility: history may look at this period as the start of the end of the great American century. That when America decided to start unilaterally, militarily imposing "democracy" (the Bush doctrine), we lost out moral leadership. We lowered ourselves to the level of every superpower demagogue led country, that came (and went) before us. LOL. Shame on us for imposing democracy on countries. Shame on us for toppling 2 of the most despicable regimes on earth - Taliban and Saddam. Yes, it is shameful. Who are we to decide the course of the world? When did God die and make Bush king? When did conservatives become nation builders and imperialists to boot? They certainly aren't known for their nation building skills.

To: Joe NYC who wrote (192926)	7/2/2004 6:55:39 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577594

Joe, re: LOL. Shame on us for imposing democracy on countries. Shame on us for toppling 2 of the most despicable regimes on earth - Taliban and Saddam. The "toppling" part is expensive but easy. The "imposing Democracy" part is very expensive and very hard. re: Gee, I thought promoting democracy was one of them <values>... "Promoting Democracy" yes, "imposing Democracy" no. The small number of neo's that have managed to hijack the federal government want to militarily impose Democracy on the rest of the world. That's not a traditional American value... it reminds me of the communist's imposing communism. And in the long run, imposing doesn't work, self determination is the only thing that creates stability. Imperialism is not a American value, and it's certainly not a conservative value. John