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Politics : Fahrenheit 9/11: Michael Moore's Masterpiece -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (1862)	7/4/2004 10:47:01 AM
From: Gordon A. Langston	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2772

kansas.com Midwest Theaters Ban 'Fahrenheit 9/11' Associated Press DECORAH, Iowa - The president of a company that owns movie theaters in Iowa and Nebraska is refusing to show director Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11." R.L. Fridley, owner of Des Moines-based Fridley Theatres, says the controversial documentary incites terrorism. Fridley said in an e-mail message to company managers that the company does not "play political propaganda films from either the right or the left." "Our country is in a war against an enemy who would destroy our way of life, our culture and kill our people," Fridley wrote. "These barbarians have shown through (the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001) and the recent beheadings that they will stop at nothing. I believe this film emboldens them and divides our country even more." "Fahrenheit 9/11" won best picture at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival and has grossed millions of dollars at the box office. Moore won an Academy Award for an earlier work, "Bowling for Columbine." Critics accuse the film of being an unfair and inaccurate portrayal about President Bush's policies before and after Sept. 11, 2001.

To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (1862)	7/4/2004 11:00:17 AM
From: redfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2772

Everything I have read from impartial observers indicates Moore is a real ass as a person. To me the merits of the movie are almost inconsequential. It ticks off the right wingers, so it is good.

To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (1862)	7/4/2004 12:02:00 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 2772

I find your review of FAHRENHEIT totally inaccurate. Moore was in this film far less than ever before. The parts of the film with ordinary people affected by the war were very heartfelt and compassionate. Not all poor people were black. And understand most whites in the military are also freom poor families. Flint however has a heavy unemployed black population, about 50%. Those black youths are also targets of recruiters. How can you say Moore is racist? Just the opposite. He is showing the way it really is, that for black youths under Bush there is almost no alternative other than enlisting to surviving in life. With 50% unemployment that's true. And why don't you comment on Bush's performance in the film? Sitting thre doing nothing while the WTC's were burning. Helping the Saudis out of the country. Being on vacation so much. Being in so deep with the Saudis from where Al Qaida comes from. Having Osama's own relative investing in his corporation? No comment on any of that? Also Moore is right about the Florida voting fraud of Jeb Bush. Just look at today's article. Florida "felons" list strikes eligible voters - - - - - - - - - - - - July 3, 2004 \| MIAMI -- More than 2,100 Floridians who had their voting rights restored were included on a list of purported felons who are potentially ineligible to vote, a newspaper reported Friday. The names were on a Florida Division of Elections list of more than 47,000 people that was sent to county elections supervisors, who are expected to determine who should be removed from the rolls. The Miami Herald, after a computer analysis, said at least 2,119 people on the list had received clemency and were eligible to vote. The purge of felons from voter rolls has been an issue in Florida since the disputed 2000 presidential election. A company hired to identify ineligible voters before the election produced an error-filled list and elections supervisors removed voters without verifying its accuracy. Premium Benefits One year subscription to Wired and U.S. News and World Report magazines. Salon's latest music mix Listen to 16 tracks from artists like June Carter Cash, Warren Zevon and Steve Earle. Get Premium on your PDA or Wireless device Free one month audio subscription to the New York Times or Wall Street Journal Get a free month of Premium when you refer a friend Get Salon's headlines delivered to your e-mail address Download Salon as plain text or PDF State elections officials disputed the Herald's report, calling it incomplete and misleading. Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokeswoman Nicole de Lara said the newspaper did not check the list against the department's records, suggesting some of the people who received clemency could have committed another felony and lost their voting rights again. The state checks the clemency list against records from the FDLE and the Corrections Department. The Herald used corrections records. The newspaper stood by its story and said the FDLE records covered an insignificant number of felons compared with the more comprehensive corrections department data. "I can understand it's embarrassing to them, but it's an accurate, important and solid news story for the people of Florida," said Manny Garcia, the Herald's metro editor. "We scrubbed (the list) down, we analyzed it and came up with the results." Of the 2,119 people identified by the Herald, 62 percent were registered Democrats, and almost half were black. Less than 20 percent were Republicans. The paper contacted 36 people on the list who confirmed they had received clemency. De Lara said the list is a database of potential matches, not a final list of names that will be purged from the voter rolls. The Herald reported that the state had flagged more than 300 people listed who might have received clemency. "We recognize there are people on this list that are not felons," de Lara said. "This list is the beginning of the process, not the end of the process." On Friday, the civil rights group People for the American Way set up a Web site to search for names on the list. The database was announced the day after a Tallahassee judge ordered the state to make copies of the list, which the Herald had obtained earlier. The Florida Democratic Party also is reviewing the list.

To: exdaytrader76 who wrote (1862)	7/4/2004 12:04:50 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 2772

PS. Judging Moore as a person is irrelevant. That's another debate. And when you debate that you really have to know the guy. That said, he knows he's a average Joe Sixpack looking fat slob with a brash attitude, but that's his main selling point. If he were a politically correct buttoned-down type it wouldn't work. The film can be judged on its own merits regardless of the guy interviewing a few people in it and narrating. And BTW, Moore did a good job interviewing and got in some good lines himself.