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To: Lane3 who wrote (52782)	7/4/2004 4:45:24 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

<<Substitute the word "relationship" for "marriage" and the paragraph still works, ergo a marriage certificate doesn't matter.>> Many states call that a common law marriage. Once the relationship is broken money can be awarded just like a preacher marriage. Ask Lee Marvin, oops, a little late for that.

To: Lane3 who wrote (52782)	7/4/2004 6:32:38 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

The marriage certificate matters very much. If you live together "as married," when you die, if you die childless, your property goes to your parents and your siblimgs. If you have children, all your property goes to your children. None of it to your partner. If you live together "as married," when you retire, there are no survivor's benefits, so the retirement benefits cease on the death. If you live together "as married", you can't get family insurance coverage. On and on. I am aware that a small number of states are changing the law, but only a few, and not very much. Certainly not Virginia.

To: Lane3 who wrote (52782)	7/5/2004 12:32:35 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

The second is that couples can and do do exactly that without going through a marriage ceremony. Substitute the word "relationship" for "marriage" and the paragraph still works, ergo a marriage certificate doesn't matter. Have you explained all that to your daughters?

To: Lane3 who wrote (52782)	7/5/2004 5:01:55 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793600

New law in Virginia, went into effect July 1, 2004. § 20-45.3. Civil unions between persons of same sex. A civil union, partnership contract or other arrangement between persons of the same sex purporting to bestow the privileges or obligations of marriage is prohibited. Any such civil union, partnership contract or other arrangement entered into by persons of the same sex in another state or jurisdiction shall be void in all respects in Virginia and any contractual rights created thereby shall be void and unenforceable.