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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (33551)	7/5/2004 2:57:03 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Respond to of 81568

Methinks this is another instance of Kerry trying to satisfy both sides of the fence. What is wrong with that. The last person I know of who did not care for what people thought and walked around with an air of "F--- YOU" is Adolf Hitler. Every other successful leader since then has made sure that he or she cared for what the others thought.

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (33551)	7/5/2004 3:48:28 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 81568

The rightwing considers moderates to be left-wingers. Like Zell Miller calling Clinton a "far leftist". That's a ridiculous self-serving exaggeration without basis in fact. Rightwingers consider anyone but Joe Lieberman who's a democrat to be a liberal. That is just not true. As we know from the Dem primaries, there is a difference between the Howard Dean style liberals and those who are centrists like Kerry, Gephardt and Edwards. Lieberman is a hybrid, both a conservative and a liberal, depending on which issues you are talking about. On some issues he is just as conservative as anyone in the GOP. Kerry is also a hybrid. He left behind much of his liberal loyalties starting in around 1992 where he moved to the center along with the DLC. That means he's fiscally conservative, moderate on foreign policy, welfare and taxes, but liberal on the environment. As for abortion and gay rights, both polarizing issues, there is a difficult middle ground. That would be where one is anti-abortion on an emotional, religous and personal level, but pro womens rights on a legal level. In other words, womens rights trump the moral and emotional aspects beause church does not rule state/law in this country. So you say "Though I regret all abortions, let it be very rare, but safe and legal when necessary". A left-winger would say "abortions are a personal matter, to hell with the church and it's none of your business to even question my right to have one if I want to".

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (33551)	7/5/2004 6:17:19 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 81568

the huge pro-choice rally a few mos ago, which was supposed to attract about 50K participants and wound up pulling in ONE MILLION should have been a canary in the coal mine for these politicians and the smart ones paid attention and the dummies stuck with Bush. All of these extreme factions like evangelical christians that are anti-choice had a larger voice than was deserved the last few elections because the general populace was fat and happy and didn't bother to vote. Not this time. The majority of people in this country are pro-choice and the right has deluded themselves into believing their views have a chance in this country, when they don't. I remember when the right wing came out against ru-486. This is simply ridiculous. Evangelical christians should buy and island and move there. We can't have this level of ignorance dictating women's lives, sorry