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To: Srexley who wrote (587855)7/6/2004 10:46:57 AM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
But it seems inconsistent that a God that is good and perfect would condemn people based on them making an incorrect decision (by not believing Jesus is the son of God). That seems mean (for lack of a better word), and counter to what a loving God would do.

It is not that He condemns us for making wrong choices. We are condemned from the very beginning, regardless of our choices. We are all AIDS babies. All existence is condemned. And it is quite apparent that we are all condemned. Here is what a loving God would do: He would provide a means whereby those trapped in our reality can be saved out of its meaninglessness and death. To join God in real life, we must become as He is. He has provided a way.

It also seems inconsistent that a perfect God would create such imperfect beings.

I don’t think so. It would be inconsistent for Him to declare that imperfection is His equal, which is why He will not ultimately accept weak humans into Himself. It would be inconsistent to allow imperfection to co-exist with Him as a final state. But God is Lord of reality. He may create a world like ours, and then fashion a process whereby the dead things therein are converted into living things. There is drama and glory here of the sort a God might enjoy.

It obviously would not be that he is incapable of making perfection, but there are instances in the Bible that indicate that he made major mistakes. The floods that lead to wiping out all human kind except for Noah and his wife is the biggest example. Kind of an "oops", let's start over with this whole human experiment. Would a perfect God do that?

Well why not? God isn’t bound in 4D, doesn’t live in a schedule wherein He must produce perfection when we think it ought to be produced and in accord with our view of it. God seems quite willing to work within what we perceive as imperfection, even chaos, to ultimately shape it into Himself. We may recognize some events within this drama as “mistakes,” but from God’s perspective they are perhaps how Perfection looks.

It is not my interest to scorn the method by which God achieves His Glory, but to play my part in it. God loves me. When each morning I awaken, I sense Him watching, taking pleasure in me, even in my stumbling attempts to glorify Him. When I commit error, I sense His correction. It is clear to me that this God is shepherding me toward a time when I will be fit enough to kick back and chill with Him. None of this would have happened had He created my reality in the way I would have created it-- in some goofy 4D static state of “perfection.” So I feel a bit reluctant to declare from here what a God of infinite dimensions should have done.