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To: SOROS who wrote (50325)7/5/2004 4:39:12 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Down with King George!
A July 4th Quiz
By Stephen R. Shalom
TomDispatch.com

Saturday 03 July 2004

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political
bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the
separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent
respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to
the separation.

1. How has the current King George shown his "decent respect for the opinions of
mankind"?

a. He went to war against Iraq despite overwhelming popular opposition
around the world and despite the absence of any UN authorization. (The
percentage of the population supporting unilateral war by the United
States and its allies was 3% in Argentina, 10% in Britain, 5% in Bulgaria,
8% in India, 3% in Malaysia, 9% in South Africa, 4% in Spain, 5% in
Switzerland, and so on.)

b. He has pursued policies that have led huge majorities in many
countries to have a negative opinion of him (in March 2004, 85%
unfavorable in Germany and France, 55% in Britain, 90% in Morocco, and
96% in Jordan).

c. He dismissed the largest protests in world history in which many
millions of people opposed his Iraq war plans, declaring, "You know, the
size of protests is like deciding, well, I'm going to decide policy based
upon a focus group."

d. He ignored the United Nations' refusal to authorize war against Iraq by
proclaiming that "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the
security of our people."

e. All of the above.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by
their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
Happiness. - That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
powers from the consent of the governed,

2. How has the current King George shown his belief in the consent of the governed?

a. He took office after his cronies in Florida disenfranchised tens of
thousands of African Americans who were legally entitled to vote in the
2000 election.

b. He handpicked an Iraqi leader - who had worked for the CIA and had
engaged in terrorism on its behalf in Iraq in the 1990s - even though that
leader was disapproved of by 61% of the Iraqi population.

c. After a failed coup attempt backed by Washington against Venezuela's
president, Hugo Chavez, an administration official stated that, although
Chavez had been "democratically elected," one had to bear in mind that
"legitimacy is something that is conferred not just by a majority of the
voters."

d. Bush extended long-standing U.S.-Israeli opposition to
self-determination for the Palestinian people by endorsing for the first time
Israel's permanent retention of major illegal settlement blocs on the West
Bank.

e. All of the above.

- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the
People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such
principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their
Safety and Happiness.

3. How has the current King George furthered our safety and happiness?

a. In the two years since September 11, 2001, less potential nuclear
weapons material that might fall into the hands of terrorists has been
secured than was secured in the two years prior to the attacks.

b. Significant terrorist attacks were at a 20-year high in 2003 and there
were more than twice as many terrorist attacks attributed to al
Qaeda-linked or identified groups since 9/11 as in their entire pre-9/11
history.

c. Former CIA director George J. Tenet said in February 2004 that the
world was at least as "fraught with dangers for American interests" as it
was before the Iraq war began.

d. The Bush administration is planning to deploy a national missile
defense system later this year, a multi-billion dollar boondoggle that will
fuel the global arms race, does not work (the system has been put
through only 8 unrealistic tests, and failed 3 of them), ignores real threats
(like port security), and, in the words of 31 former government officials, is
a "sham" that "will provide no real defense."

e. All of the above.

... He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our
legislatures.

4. In the United States there is supposed to be a "volunteer" military. How has the
current King George dealt with this force?

a. He has ordered some soldiers' tours of duty to be involuntarily
extended by as much as 18 months.

b. His White House budget office issued a memo calling for more than
$900 million in cuts from veterans programs after the election.

c. His "No Child Left Behind" education law requires high schools to
provide military recruiters with the names, addresses, and phone numbers
of their students - which the military hopes will "boost" recruitment.

d. Rather than withdrawing troops from Iraq and saving lives, both U.S.
and Iraqi, he has ordered that the media may not show pictures of the
flag-draped caskets of dead soldiers.

e. All of the above.

...For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial,
from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

5. How has the current King George tried to protect soldiers who commit crimes?

a. He has refused to permit the United States to adhere to the
International Criminal Court and has successfully pressured large
numbers of allied countries to agree never to invoke its provisions against
US troops.

b. After failing to get his third consecutive Security Council grant of
immunity for U.S. troops, he had his top official in Iraq, L. Paul Bremer III,
unilaterally extend Order 17, which immunizes U.S. and other coalition
forces from Iraqi legal process.

c. He has blamed "a few bad apples" for the torture and murders that have
taken place in our offshore prison system, rather than acknowledging
that, as Human Rights Watch has stated, "This pattern of abuse did not
result from the acts of individual soldiers who broke the rules. It resulted
from decisions made by the Bush administration to bend, ignore, or cast
rules aside."

d. He has refused to declassify many relevant documents on the subject
of torture deliberations within the administration, but documents that have
been leaked or made public show that government lawyers advised: (1)
interrogators who torture al Qaeda or Taliban captives could be exempt
from prosecution under the president's powers as commander in chief; (2)
it's not torture if the interrogator knows that his or her actions will cause
severe pain and suffering but doesn't specifically intend to cause severe
pain and suffering; and (3) it's not torture unless the level of physical pain
inflicted is equivalent to that of "organ failure, impairment of bodily
function, or even death."

e. All of the above.

...For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

6. What are the features of the current King George's tax policies?

a. Taxes have been cut 12% for the very rich, 7% for the middle class,
and 3% for the poor.

b. The middle class and poor will lose more from government spending
cuts than they gain from the tax cuts.

c. According to former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, when a new tax
cut for the rich was proposed, Bush asked his advisers, "Didn't we
already give them a break at the top?" - though the president soon
endorsed the cut - and when O'Neill warned that new tax cuts would be
economically unsound, Vice President Dick Cheney told him: "We won
the midterms [elections]. This is our due."

d. His administration gave a $10 billion homeland security contract to a
subsidiary of Accenture, the former consulting arm of Arthur Anderson &
Co. which moved to Bermuda to avoid paying U.S. taxes, and then the
administration got the House of Representatives to reverse its ban on
giving such contracts to offshore tax avoiders.

e. All of the above.

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury: For transporting us beyond Seas to
be tried for pretended offences

7. Which of the following are characteristics of justice under the current King George?

a. He has transported people across the seas to the U.S.-occupied
military base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and to a host of detention
facilities around the world, known and unknown, where people have not
been tried or even charged with offenses, whether real or pretended.

b. Of the more than 5,000 foreign nationals arrested in the United States
since 9/11 in anti-terrorist "preventive detention," only three have been
charged with any terrorist crime; of these, two were acquitted and the
third was convicted only after the main prosecution witness lied on the
stand.

c. According to information U.S. military intelligence officials gave to the
Red Cross, 70-90% of the people imprisoned in Iraq were arrested in
error.

d. He has turned prisoners over to the custody of foreign governments -
such as Canadian citizen Maher Arar who was arrested in the U.S.,
denied a lawyer, and sent to Syria for 10 months of torture. As one U.S.
official explained, "We don't kick the s[hit] out of them. We send them to
other countries so they can kick the s[hit] out of them."

e. All of the above.

...He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our
people.

8. How has the current King George plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, and
destroyed our cities and people?

a. He has leased an area for oil and natural gas drilling just 100 miles off
the coast of Florida, endangering the state's beaches, and has favored an
energy bill that would empower the Secretary of the Interior to allow
offshore drilling in areas currently subject to drilling moratoria.

b. He has rejected the Kyoto Protocol which would address to some
degree the problem of global warming, a major cause of coastal erosion.

c. His administration is calling for deep cuts in the funding of housing
vouchers for the poor and changes in the program that are "more
sweeping and threatening to the low-income families and elderly and
disabled people whom the program serves [than]... any proposal
advanced by any prior Administration" since the voucher program was
created under President Nixon. This would devastate low-income families
and the cities in which they live.

d. His plan to deal with pollution from coal-burning power plants will lead
to 8,000 additional deaths per year compared to a competing plan,
according to a study by the mainstream research firm, Abt Associates.

e. All of the above.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the works of death,
desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in
the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

9. How has the current King George, who once said "America must never outsource
America's national security," used mercenaries, foreign and domestic?

a. There are some 15,000-20,000 private "contract employees" in security
roles in Iraq - mercenaries - making them the second largest military force
in the country, after the U.S. armed forces, and making Iraq the biggest
market ever for private military services.

b. Among the tasks assigned by the U.S. to mercenaries has been the
interrogation of Iraqi prisoners, which has led to the widespread use of
torture, for which private contractors cannot easily be brought to justice.
As one commentator noted, "This legal grey zone may well not be
entirely accidental, of course. It means that private contractors can be
used to do dirty work for the military or the CIA with plausible deniability
and relative immunity."

c. Among the mercenaries recruited for service in Iraq have been former
assassins for the apartheid regime in South Africa, veterans of the
Chilean military under Pinochet and the Serbian military under Milosevic,
the commander of a murderous military unit in Northern Ireland, arms
smugglers, and coup plotters.

d. Scholar Deborah Avant of George Washington University noted that
because of private security firms, "leaders in Washington and other
Western capitals now have the freedom to intervene abroad and pay little
domestic political price. ...'it's certainly a factor that allows countries,
including the United States, to do things when there simply isn't
widespread public support.'"

e. All of the above.

...A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be
the ruler of a free people.

10. Which of the following acts show that the current King George is unfit to be the ruler
of a free people?

a. He has systematically deceived the American people to lead us into
war and for other nefarious purposes.

b. He has raised government secrecy to new heights, denying the people,
the Congress, and the courts the ability to oversee the operations of the
executive branch.

c. According to Amnesty International, "The global security agenda
promoted by the U.S. Administration is bankrupt of vision and bereft of
principle. Violating rights at home, turning a blind eye to abuses abroad
and using pre-emptive military force where and when it chooses has
damaged justice and freedom, and made the world a more dangerous
place."

d. He has attacked working people (for example, issuing regulations that
would allow millions of workers to be deprived of overtime pay), women
(appointing judges hostile to reproductive rights), gay men and lesbians
(calling for an amendment banning same-sex marriage), and racial and
ethnic minorities (opposing affirmative action).

e. All of the above and much, much more.

Answers and Sources
"E. All of the above." is the answer to each question.

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To: SOROS who wrote (50325)7/5/2004 9:02:52 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
"...but give me ONE example of a Democrat or a Republican whose actions are not the direct result of trying to look out for #1."

The human experience is one of pursuing self-interests. There are no sane exceptions. However, it depends on how you fundamentally view things as being in your own best interests. The continuum is made up of two extremes. On the one end is materialistic gain and comfort. On the other end is a principled life of concern for the well being of all. It is impossible to distinguish the motive of an individual since in a social culture they play out virtually the same.

Materialist: A materialist is about gaining material wealth, comfort, and pleasure. This can only be accomplished via operating within the social mores of the culture. So the materialist values the societal order that supports their pursuits. They are less likely to believe their rewards are the result of some cosmic scheme since their strategy involves strictly temporal cause and effect.

Principled life: A person living a principled life figures that rewards and punishments are the result of living a life of consideration for the well being of self and others. They expect to enjoy comfort and joy as a result of their purposeful endeavors. They are more likely to attribute a higher order of reward and punishment since their strategy involves divine and eternal reconciliation.

In both cases people are ultimately seeking what they believe is best for themselves.



To: SOROS who wrote (50325)7/6/2004 12:54:07 AM
From: denizen48  Respond to of 89467
 
We still distinguish between apples & oranges, between inclines & cliffs, between 50 miles & 100 miles. A democrat is not a republican. And this is the worst administration in US history. Don't go smearing the clear picture.



To: SOROS who wrote (50325)7/6/2004 7:54:42 AM
From: Suma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Agree with you about both parties looking out for #1.. How about the discrepancies in their health care compared to us ordinary Americans.?

I don't think Larry King is a contender for Rush. He more or less interviews.

The God like status afforded athletes and entertainers... Unbelievable. And I love sports. It's the inequities. We profess to want to have our children well educated. After all they are the future of the Country. However, look at the value we place on teachers... vs. the above mentioned with regard to salaries.

The Enron situation is an example of Corporate Greed. No thought to the workers who lost their jobs and pensions.

The inequities are great and there always will be the haves and have nots. Some by virtue of birth and others luck. But that's the way the cookie crumbles...