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To: American Spirit who wrote (91)	7/6/2004 12:13:03 PM
From: JakeStraw	Respond to of 1026

LOL! Get a grip on reality girly!

To: American Spirit who wrote (91)	7/6/2004 12:18:40 PM
From: JakeStraw	Respond to of 1026

"The use of the word "unvarnished" would imply that Moore's presentation is a factual one. But Moore's movie pays no homage to the facts, and indeed, goes out of its way to avoid them. From editing interviews to fit his preconceived propaganda line (a Moore specialty, I might add), to avoiding questions that show just how much he has airbrushed history to make his points, Moore shows that he has no respect for the facts that should find their way into any honest discussion of the war on terror in general, and the war in Iraq in particular. It's not as if the lies in Moore's film are well-hidden. The websites Moorelies.com and Mooreexposed.com keep a running commentary on Moore's inability to coincide his facts with the truth. Slate Magazine's Christopher Hitchens penned a devastating review of Moore's latest movie, one that reveals Fahrenheit 9/11 to be a laugh-out-loud fraud. Moore is obviously frightened of the fact-checking that would reveal him to be a fabulist of amazing proportions, which is why he is hell-bent on intimidating his opponents with threats of lawsuits if they should even have the temerity to question his gospel. And yet, despite all of the flaws and holes in Moore's film, national Democrats actually went to the theater and spoke glowingly of it. One wonders what they were thinking. Weren't any of them familiar enough with current events to have to stifle guffaws as Moore's movie rolled along with one historical misrepresentation after another? Did none of them notice that the portrayal of a relatively benign and peaceful Iraq was . . . well . . . completely out of touch with reality? Did none of them ask themselves why Moore didn't see fit to even give a mention of the human rights abuses that ran rampant in Saddam Hussein's regime, or why Fahrenheit 9/11 utterly failed to discuss Iraq's past aggression to its neighbors, its serial violations of the cease-fire resolution that ended the first Persian Gulf War, or its obstruction of weapons inspections since the end of Operation Desert Storm? The belief that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was colluding with terrorist groups like al Qaeda was not unique to the Bush Administration. Rather, it was shared by the Clinton Administration before it -- as Stephen Hayes points out and as this article and this one make clear. Did any of the Democrats who screened the movie think about these facts as they listened to Moore's disembodied voice proclaiming throughout the movie that only the Bush Administration made claims about Iraq-al Qaeda links -- and that they were lying when they did so? Or did they merely accept Moore's jeremiad unquestioningly because it focused on a convenient target (a Republican President) at a convenient time (an election year)? " techcentralstation.com

To: American Spirit who wrote (91)	7/6/2004 12:20:40 PM
From: redfish	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1026

I'm sure that for his services to our nation Moore will win the Presidential Medal of Freedom, if not the Congressional Medal of Honor itself.

To: American Spirit who wrote (91)	7/6/2004 1:35:52 PM
From: Chas.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1026

you may be in the center and you may have goals....but trust me they are not the same as Michael Moores. Moore is in this for the money, pure and simple, and the more money the louder he cries. and yes he is also a bleeding heart liberal......at all the other dumb cluck bleeding heart liberals expense. this guy is masterful and is laughing all the way to the bank and then back to his multimillion dollar pad across from Central Park in NYC.....laughing all the way. I believe you are sincere in your naviete and that is alright, it is ok, it is good, when you get older you will look back at all this and say....."omigod, did I say that...." we on the logical, realistic, conservative right just give thanks that you are not in charge of anything other than your bowel movements, assuming you are in charge of them. regards from your pal chucky