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To: zeta1961 who wrote (53106)7/6/2004 6:36:22 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793883
 
Thanks, zeta. I'm glad you enjoyed the post.

I defend medical malpractice cases on occasion. I see some very bad things that do in fact happen, and I'm sure you have seen them, too, but the science on CP is simply too overpowering to suggest that CP due to malpractice is as routine as the trial lawyers would have juries believe.

And don't forget that these cases are unbelievably profitable.

Thee quote from the NE Journal of Medicine that kills the case for CP caused by malpractice follows:

Reviewing pooled data from nine industrialized countries, Clark and Hankins concluded that "despite a 5-fold increase in the rate of cesarean section based, in part, on the electronically derived diagnosis of `fetal distress,' cerebral palsy prevalence has remained stable"23

Although it seems intuitively reasonable that a speedy delivery might occasionally rescue an infant from potential harm, there is no evidence of good quality that surgical delivery can prevent cerebral palsy. Cesarean section during active labor, which may be performed on the basis of intrapartum electronic monitoring, has been associated with an increased risk of hemorrhage, infection, thromboembolic events, and air or amniotic-fluid embolization in the mother.24,25 Interventions that have been assumed to be capable of saving an occasional infant may, if undertaken on the basis of clinical observations such as findings on electronic monitoring, increase the risks to mothers; as Clark and Hankins note, "operative intervention based on electronic fetal monitoring has probably done more harm than good."23

Implications

The known causes of cerebral palsy account for only a minority of the total cases. Even for most of those cases, however, evidence of the preventability of the disorder is lacking.

For future research that may make cerebral palsy preventable, we need new hypotheses, animal models that will take into account the complexity often encountered clinically, and careful clinical research. Trials of preventive interventions will require strategies for term infants that are somewhat different from those used for very premature infants, but for both groups large base populations will be needed to ensure sufficient numbers of subjects.

Although cerebral palsy, especially in cases related to birth asphyxia, is not known to be preventable by means now available, lawsuits brought against obstetricians for not preventing its development are a major contributor to the high cost of malpractice insurance and the disruptive consequences of the climate of litigation.26 The courts often permit unsupported "expert" opinion to supersede the consistent evidence of randomized, clinical trials, meta-analyses, case–control studies, and population-based time trends.


Scum like Edwards have nevertheless profited from judges who allow junk science in the courtroom. Is this the kind of guy we want a heartbeat away from the Presidency?



To: zeta1961 who wrote (53106)7/6/2004 11:05:29 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793883
 
Funny, as a lawyer who handles the occasional med mal case, plenty of the clients were approached first by nurses and other health care workers who urged them to get a lawyer due to substandard care.

On the other hand, the doctors I've interacted with tend to feel like getting sued comes with the territory, as long as it doesn't stick. The ones who take it badly are usually the ones who screwed up.

Everybody makes mistakes. My first cousin was born brain-damaged due to hypoxia almost 50 years ago because the nurses held her knees together until the doctor got there. They didn't sue. My first child might have been saved if the doctor had remembered who I was, or if the hospital had told him that I was only 6 1/2 months pregnant when I went into labor. He rolled in a couple of hours after the phone call, expecting the usual slow nullipara delivery, but by then it was too late to try magnesium. I didn't sue, either.

Maybe I should have demanded that the hospital call him back and tell him I needed Slo-Mag or magnesium sulfate. I was young and trusting then.

I worked in labor and delivery as an OR tech for a year or so after high school, circa 1970, and personally observed the tremendous differences between "natural" (undrugged) childbirth, and labor and delivery when the mother was heavily sedated with "twilight sleep" and the like. As soon as she got the drugs, labor would slow down, sometimes cease. It's crazy and stupid, but it's a free country.

I would discount completely any so-called randomized clinical trial that did not make a distinction based on whether the mother was drugged or not.

Anyway, back to Edwards. You seem to believe that Edwards is venal and a liar, so are his expert witnesses, the defense lawyers are incompetent, the defense expert witnesses are morons, the judges calling the shots in these cases too stupid to find their behinds with both hands, and the juries even stupider than the defense lawyers and the judges. You, on the other hand, who never actually sat in on one of his cases, nor read the entire record, know the truth. Interesting . . . . unlikely, but no doubt you find it comforting to think about how much smarter, you, a nurse, are than everybody actually involved in the case.



To: zeta1961 who wrote (53106)7/7/2004 8:27:13 PM
From: carranza2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793883
 
Here's more that I was not aware of, including the suggestion that most juries rule for the defense in bad baby cases, something that is probably not true in my jurisdiction:

manhattan-institute.org

As the malpractice wars rage on, the press is finally noticing a new study with major implications for our medical-liability system.

On Jan. 31, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, along with the American Academy of Pediatrics, released the results of a comprehensive new three-year study surveying what is known about the causes of cerebral palsy and brain injury in full and near-full term infants. According to the study, "the vast majority" of brain damage and cerebral palsy among these infants originates in factors largely or completely outside the control of delivery-room personnel -- factors that include prenatal infection, genetic fetal abnormalities, disorders of blood clotting, and maternal thyroid problems and diabetes. Contrary to what had long been assumed, interruption of oxygen during labor is "not a significant cause in most of the cases."

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Why is this news? In part because lawsuits blaming OBs for cerebral palsy and other infant brain damage may constitute the single biggest branch of medical malpractice litigation, yielding lawyers the highest settlements and the richest contingency fees, rivaled only by failure to diagnose cancer. If ACOG's report is to be credited, much of this litigation looks to be scientifically unfounded.

Around 8,000 babies are diagnosed each year with cerebral palsy, an incurable disorder that in severe cases may require a lifetime of care. The distraught parent who turns to the Internet for information after a child's diagnosis will be bombarded with law-firm ads. "Delivery mistakes can cause cerebral palsy. Record-setting cerebral palsy verdicts!" blares one. Another boasts of $120 million, $103 million and $100 million awards won by "our affiliated attorneys (these are the very same attorneys that could be assigned to your case)." At CPalsy.com, until recently a picture of a wheelchair flashed in alternation with a picture of a stack of dollar bills. "Your child's cerebral palsy may be the result of a medical mistake. Don't get mad. Get Even!"

These sites offer an ostensibly independent medical evaluation of a child's file, which, however, is not necessarily independent of the lawyers' incentive to find someone to blame. Among many in the litigation business, it is an article of faith that mistakes in labor and delivery causing hypoxia, or lack of oxygen, are a very frequent cause of infants' bad neurological outcomes. The next step is to break the horrible news to the parent: Your child would never have had to endure this grievous disability had the doctors only done their job properly. One father was recently quoted as saying that on hearing this news he was gripped with a desire to kill the doctor, probably not an unusual reaction. The lawsuit that follows will claim that brain damage could have been averted had doctors only given the mother a Caesarean section, or given her one earlier or later; or administered medications in a different combination, or at a higher or lower dosage -- there's an ample supply both of causation theories and of experts-for-hire willing to testify to them. Hired experts for the doctor and hospital then often dispute the causal link between the alleged lapse in care and the child's plight.

Most juries, it seems, decide such cases in favor of the defense. But those that find for the plaintiff return awards that not infrequently top $10 million. Last year the National Law Journal's nationwide top-100-verdicts list included 13 medical liability cases, of which 10 involved delivery and care of newborns and half or more alleged oxygen deprivation. (Causation was a major element of dispute in many but not all of the cases.) Of the 10, six came out of the New York courts, including a trio of Brooklyn cases at $94 million, $90 million and $62 million. The great majority of cases settle without trial, and even a case where the causation element is speculative may command a handsome settlement if it is filed in a liberal jurisdiction and if doctors' handling of the delivery can be depicted as callous, confused or chaotic. Yet defensive medicine, including the skyrocketing of Caesarean-section incidence to one-quarter of births, has failed to lower cerebral-palsy rates.

The report by no means relieves delivery rooms of responsibility. It estimates that between 6% and 10% of newborns' brain injuries do originate in events during labor and delivery, and that of these perhaps half, amounting to 3% to 5%, might be preventable (which does not mean that the failure to prevent them implies negligent care in any given case). In a larger swath of cases, perhaps another 25%, the handling of labor and delivery may influence the extent of damage in cases where pre-existing risk factors already spell trouble for a child. The report does not dispute that some high-verdict obstetric brain damage cases rest on valid science.

This did not mollify plaintiff's lawyers quoted in the Boston Globe, whose reactions ranged from dismissive to furious. One attorney called the report "dangerous, intellectually indefensible, and morally irresponsible." "This is not a peer-reviewed medical research paper," claimed another. On the contrary, said Dr. Gary Hankins, chair of the task force that produced the report, it was "one of the most highly peer-reviewed reports ever." ACOG and AAP also lined up an all-star list of institutions to second the report's findings: it's been endorsed by the federal government's National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, by professional groups from Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and by the March of Dimes. The United Cerebral Palsy Research and Education Foundation likewise "concurs with the findings of the report," its medical director says.

All of which suggests that the movement for medical liability reform needs to tackle not only the size of verdicts but also their believability. Caps on pain-and-suffering awards are of at best limited help if doctors lose all confidence that the legal system will get medical facts right in the first place. (Ask plastic surgeons about the silicone implant debacle, or orthopedists about the attack on pedicle bone screws.) "Certificate of merit" laws requiring plaintiffs to line up an expert before filing suit rather than afterward probably do some good, as do evidence rules empowering judges to exclude more scientifically doubtful testimony and juror-selection reforms to keep citizens with medical expertise from being systematically excluded from jury service.

More ambitiously, we could take a leaf from other nations' practice by moving toward the use of experts answerable to the courts, rather than contending experts hired by the parties, and by adopting loser-pays to discourage long-shot cases. One needlessly injured child, as will rightly be pointed out, is too many. Isn't one falsely accused defendant also too many?