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To: sea_urchin who wrote (21341)	7/8/2004 3:40:00 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 80904

Re: If EU accepts Turkey, then Turkey owes that to the US and this gives the US another toe-hold in Europe I'm not as sure as you about Turkey being just another US stooge in Europe --Turkey is not Britain... Contrariwise, I'd say that if Turkey became a full-fledged EU member, the US would LOSE a key partner in the Mideast/Central Asia. For that matter, just imagine how stronger the position of France and Germany would have been, back in March 2003 on the eve of the US invasion of Iraq, if Turkey were a European member --would Rumsfeld have dared to put Turkey into "Ol'Europe"?!

To: sea_urchin who wrote (21341)	7/8/2004 5:14:01 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 80904

Footnote on how crucial it is for Judeofascists to break/foil the Paris-Berlin-Ankara axis: Thu., July 08, 2004 Tamuz 19, 5764 Olmert heads for Ankara in effort to mend strained relations By Aluf Benn, Haaretz Correspondent Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is slated to visit Turkey next week and meet with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in what will be the first high-level visit by an Israeli official since Erdogan began speaking out against Israel's behavior in the territories. In a series of interviews and speeches, Erdogan termed Israel's actions against the Palestinians a form of terrorism, and Jerusalem tried to discern the reason for the sudden flood of criticism. The assessment was that Turkey was not interested in disrupting relations with Israel, but that there had been too little direct dialogue with Erdogan and the senior Justice and Development Party officials close to him. Thus Israel, which had always nurtured its ties with the "old elites" of Turkey, concentrated in the army and the government, is now looking for ways to tighten ties with the new leadership in Ankara. Jerusalem's impression is that Erdogan is not sufficiently familiar with what is happening in Israel and believes that Prime Minister Ariel Sharon is an extreme rightist. The two have yet to meet. Olmert will ask Erdogan about his positions toward Israel, and he will also deliver messages from Sharon. Israel has tried to avoid an open crisis with Ankara, preferring to send back-channel signals via Washington - through the administration, Congress and the Jewish community. Israel's three requests are that Erdogan cease his public attacks, that he express support for Sharon's disengagement plan, and that Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul pay a first visit to Israel. The Americans passed on the message, and President George W. Bush, who was in Turkey last week for a NATO meeting, spoke of the importance of relations with Israel during his conversation with Erdogan. The public clash has indeed died down, but beyond that, not much progress has been made. Gul, who has met in the past with Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom, has yet to even ask to visit Israel. The Turks have said that he would visit if he could contribute to the peace process with the Palestinians. Olmert goes to Turkey next Wednesday at the head of a business delegation. He is slated to sign a protocol for economic cooperation, and will also try to make some progress in a water development project in the Gap area in which six Israeli companies are involved. haaretz.com