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To: GVTucker who wrote (65791)7/7/2004 1:59:58 PM
From: John Carragher  Respond to of 77400
 
"hydrogen gas stations for California"

wonder what the incentive if to put aside existing storage for hydrogen gas? Who is paying for the capital to install storage ,pumps and of course loss of storage of existing gasoline reducing flexibility to dispatch full truck loads to these stations..

I believe Ca. did mandate hydrogen storage about twenty years ago. Each major had to install x facilities.. a very low number and not even close to rounding of a full %.

some folks are still looking for diesel to make a come back like in eu. Show me the demand to set aside storage facilities in storage tank terminals screaming for storage with the various grades of gasoline now, isolate truck compartment for delivery, Oh, it is so volitile that it may even be outlawed now to carry diesel and gasoline on the same truck. For some reason they do not mix , generate static and boom. When they carried years ago they would keep an empty compartment between diesel and gasoline on a truck then they stopped shipping both on same unit. I expect they now peddle the stuff around a number of stations on one truck. Guess that is how hydrogen gas would be delivered in a truck with six inches of steel around it. Like the delivery trucks in nyc.



To: GVTucker who wrote (65791)7/7/2004 3:36:27 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Respond to of 77400
 
well, I think you are much more knowledgeable on fuel technology than I am, so I will defer to you. However, hydrogen cars have a number of benefits above the fossil fuels question. There is the emissions issue which is especially problematic for Southern Ca, for one thing.

I'm just glad somebody in government somewhere is doing something to evaluate alternatives.



To: GVTucker who wrote (65791)7/7/2004 4:03:23 PM
From: greg s  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77400
 
GVT,

re: And what is the primary source for that hydrogen? Natural gas, another fossil fuel.

Very true. Any why spend the money extracting the hydrogen from natural gas? Just burn NG in the vehicle. Requires relatively inexpensive retrofit. Has been done for years already. Columbia Gas has had NG vehicles in their fleet for years, as an example.

greg.