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To: redfish who wrote (34274)7/8/2004 8:09:29 AM
From: redfishRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace. It thus repudiates the doctrine of Pacifism -- born of a renunciation of the struggle and an act of cowardice in the face of sacrifice. War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have courage to meet it. All other trials are substitutes, which never really put men into the position where they have to make the great decision -- the alternative of life or death....

The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone....

For Fascism, the growth of empire, that is to say the expansion of the nation, is an essential manifestation of vitality, and its opposite a sign of decadence. Peoples which are rising, or rising again after a period of decadence, are always imperialist; and renunciation is a sign of decay and of death. Fascism is the doctrine best adapted to represent the tendencies and the aspirations of a people, like the people of Italy, who are rising again after many centuries of abasement and foreign servitude. But empire demands discipline, the coordination of all forces and a deeply felt sense of duty and sacrifice: this fact explains many aspects of the practical working of the regime, the character of many forces in the State, and the necessarily severe measures which must be taken against those who would oppose this spontaneous and inevitable movement of Italy in the twentieth century, and would oppose it by recalling the outworn ideology of the nineteenth century - repudiated wheresoever there has been the courage to undertake great experiments of social and political transformation; for never before has the nation stood more in need of authority, of direction and order.

--Benito Mussolini (1932)



To: redfish who wrote (34274)7/8/2004 9:03:39 AM
From: DismalScientistRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
<< That is how the Bush admin operates, and that is how the Hitler admin operated.>>

Redfish - I want to see Bush go into involuntary retirement as much as anyone on this thread. But let's not give ammunition to the other side with Hitler comparisons. We have a great case against Bush and can make it on its merits.

I am optimistic - even more so since the selection of Edwards - although I always liked Biden.

I do fear an October surprise. Will they catch Bin Laden or do they already have him and are waiting until October to let us know. Will Saddem suddenly admit that he always had the WMDs or that he really was part of al queda - - in exchange for what?

I, like others on this thread, also think that they will dump Cheney. I am not so sure they won't find a way to convince McCain to accept. Of course, it won't be because Cheney is a loser and a drag on the ticket. It will be due to "health reasons" - perhaps his upcoming planned heart attack.

But overall still optimistic.



To: redfish who wrote (34274)7/8/2004 11:37:52 AM
From: JeffARead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Sounds like the way you talk to others over on your Michael Moore thread.

Look in the mirror.



To: redfish who wrote (34274)7/8/2004 8:21:14 PM
From: lorneRespond to of 81568
 
fish. You said...." Any facts that do not suit your agenda are called lies."......

Let me see if I have this right....You have taken upon yourself to decide for me that facts that I don't agree with are lies.

Say what. LOL If a fact is presented to me I believe it because it is a fact. Could you explain to me and any others who would bother to read this silliness how it is that you could consider something which is a fact to be a lie??

The FACT is that according to the dictionary a FACT is.... something known to have happened, to be true, or to exist.....a thing asserted to be true as a basis for reasoning.

The reasoning part may be important to you.

Was I helpful at all to you?

As for any agenda .... nope I don't belong to any political groups and never have. I do not belong to any religious groups either. I like to think for myself....and you?

You said...." That is how the Bush admin operates, and that is how the Hitler admin operated. ".....

You are free to like or dislike whomever you please but don't you think it is taking things a bit to far to compare your own president to hitler?

You certainly are not alone with this kind of remark and I wonder just how you and others managed to get so fanatical that you would refer to your president in this manner.

IMO. It is very obvious that you are a follower and want to be one of the gang and that's not a bad thing. However you appear to me to be an easily led follower who can slip into fanatic mode without being aware what is happening to yourself. Hope you notice before it's to late.

FACT is I had a good chuckle from your post. LOL