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To: aladin who wrote (53512)7/8/2004 10:23:27 PM
From: michael97123  Respond to of 793916
 
"What if the Chinese decide to move ahead with cloning - do we go down that road?"

Depends on who they clone. They probably will bring back Chairman Mao. (g)



To: aladin who wrote (53512)7/8/2004 10:31:23 PM
From: michael97123  Respond to of 793916
 
John,
Folks who had fertilized eggs stored for fertility purposes and now have their families should have the rate to make the decision on what to do with those embryos since the choice is the garbage or to cure parkinsons (perhaps). I may be dumb as a stump but i cant understand why folks who are pro life are pro garbage for these embryos. Human beings give their lives for others all the time. These embryos have served their purpose and no one says bring them all to term. So why not use the cells for humans rather than feed them to the rats. mike
PS I know i was tough in this post and a bit too graphic but its the way i see it. FYI i am pro-choice but would never abort without good reason. And i do want that choice over what is good reason.



To: aladin who wrote (53512)7/8/2004 10:40:52 PM
From: Lane3  Respond to of 793916
 
Stem cells are a big issue, but what if its a red herring?

It's hard to tell how big a deal it's going to be. Whether it pans out or not, seems to me we can't afford to fall behind. There's enormous potential for health and commercial value. Not everything that seems promising pans out. But we follow all of them and some of them will pay off.

The line between what is ethical and unethical is important and needs discourse.

Most definitely.

What do you consider unethical?

I consider most of what most people do on a daily basis to be unethical. I consider standing up a date unethical. Or sticking your chewing gum to the bottom of your seat in the movie theater. Or wearing something you bought and then returning it to the store.

Perhaps that's not what you had in mind. <g> I definitely don't find unethical making use of a discarded embryo for the advancement of health care. I've had the organ-donor box on my driver's license checked forever. I don't know about unethical, but it seems churlish and ungenerous not to.

Do you at least concede that someone else may find your view backward?

Most likely. I'm not particularly hip. And I'm not at all cavalier about ethical issues. People have different ideas about what is forward and what is backward.

What if the Chinese decide to move ahead with cloning - do we go down that road?

Not of humans. I have yet to hear a good reason for doing that and can think of a lot of reasons not to.



To: aladin who wrote (53512)7/8/2004 11:08:40 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793916
 
What if the Chinese decide to move ahead with cloning - do we go down that road?

"God doesn't want us to clone!" That cry in this country will stop it here, at least to start with. Then, when someone else succeeds, it will be "we must close the cloning gap!"

I think there are going to be some real problems with it, to start. We are doing a lot of biological things empirically that we don't have a base understanding about.