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To: Srexley who wrote (589360)	7/9/2004 10:00:47 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

<<'ve read it three times now. Why not just post the passage that says what they did to get the wrath of God? The instead of just trying to make me look like a fool>> I'm not trying to make you look like a fool. I honestly didn't believe you had given any serious thought to (or even that you had carefully read) my post based on your response. It wouldn't be the first time you've skimmed through something and given an inappropriate response. You've said yourself that you sometimes rush through things too quickly or forget who wrote what. Here's the passage: 15 "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. 16 "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Some of the Israelite men had been having sex with the Midianite women thus tempting them away from the one true God. So to solve this problem they decided to exterminate the whole lot of them. It's a lot like saying, "our men are having sex with the goats, we better kill all the goats." Only it's worse because we're talking about people. I find these actions particularly heinous when you consider that it was the Midianites who took Moses in when he fled Egypt into exile. They treated him as their own, he married one of their women, his father-in-law was a Midianite. Yet Moses orders their extermination because his men found their women enticing. And when his soldiers took the women and children prisoner, he ordered them executed. Some religious people will tell you that these things did happen as described and were in fact moral because they were God's will and whatever God wills is, in fact, moral by definition. I find such moral relativism to be troubling and unacceptable. I find such actions to be always wrong, always immoral. So yes some Christians condone genocide if they believe that genocide to be God's will. I can't accept that. According to the Bible there are such things as evil races of people that righteously should be exterminated. I can't accept that either. I don't hold this against anyone personally. I just find such a moral code to be seriously flawed and i don't see it as an expression of hate to say so. <<The more posts I have with you the more I am conviinced that you are an arrogant and condescending man that uses dishonest tactics and ridicule to "win" his arguments. You can trick stupid people that way> But if your reply is just that I am stupid, can't read your post, and that you really took a lot of time to compose it, save it.>> You're the one doing all the name calling. I've been trying to discuss this subject seriously. Steve Dietrich