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To: alan w who wrote (37947)7/10/2004 3:51:11 AM
From: Berry Picker  Respond to of 39621
 
I think people took the words "comfortable" beyond the intended meaning.

I did not say I was happy my brother went to hell - far far from it.

To me there is nothing worse - I could wish him tortured to death
here and now and to suffer the greatest of pains but yet go to heaven
then to die painlessly ( I do not know if it was painless ) and yet go to hell.

I am "comfotable" to the extent that at some point one has to
let go and let God as people say - to accept God;s predestinating powers and purposes.

God "ordained" that my brother commit suicide and as far as I
can tell and without much int he way of reasonable doubt went to hell.

I can "shake my fist" at God and rebel against His chosen destiny
for my own personal family and brother - but why stop there?

If I can shake my fist at God for the "sake" of my own family
then way not for the pain and suffering that He has ordained
for all men in all cases - Jesus told me to "love" even my enemies
why not be inflamed for all mankind and for God even creating us
knowing the sufferings and deaths that would occur???

God could feed everyone right now - just rain down manna.

God could end starvation right now ...

Men can at that point find great discomfort in God and all that
he has ordained to come to pass - He allowed Judas to be born:

Matthew 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him:
but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed!
it had been good for that man if he had not been born.

I am comfortable that God is God and will do whatsoever He will do

I am not in a place to judge God or to say - why are you doing that?

Isaiah 40:13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?

Romans 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

Hebrews 2:6 But one in a certain place testified, saying,
What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of
man, that thou visitest him?

I know that God is Love - I also know that God does hate some men.

That is not a contradiction to me - I do not argue with God
as to whom He will have mercy upon and to whom He will not.

I can pray for mercy - I can pray God have mercy upon my dead brother.

I have prayed such - but I honestly do not believe it makes
any difference - God is merciful - but choses to whom He shows that Mercy.

I do not see a God that MUST have mercy and love for all men as do you.

I know that God will do what is right in His sight.

My brother was not MINE - he was His as are all men.

We will all appear before Christ to be judged of Him.

I am quite comfortable to accept what God has ordained
even if it is evil concerning my brother after the flesh.

I think many people have had to come to grips with God leaving
family members according to the flesh - in their sin.

It is not pleasant - but it is right to "Let God be God"

People say it - how many of us actually do it?

Don't worry Alan - your criticism was taken as it was intended
a display of your frustration and anger :-)

I am not really offended with you and I knew you would feel
poorly - that is the part of you that encourages me to believe
you are actually one of his...

even if you are a flaming heretic - sorry could not resist

oohh toooo funny ROTF

EDIT - Still laughing