To: philv who wrote (21374 ) 7/10/2004 6:34:15 PM From: sea_urchin Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 81318 Phil > how unfortunate and frustrating it must be when one's record of service and achievements are lost Especially when they are so meritorious! > Israel should not be concerned with a Kerry win. Yes, it's pretty much a "given" that Kerry will support existing US Mid-East policies. If he didn't he would have been crushed already by the Jewish lobby. > Israel loses world court and world opinion regarding the security "fence" Yes, and big time too. The US is also a big loser although it doesn't admit to that now. Furthermore the US doesn't like losing. But there will come a time when heads will have to roll for this crazy policy of "defending the indefensible" -- and it may be sooner than we think.todaysalternativenews.com >>Now that the International Court has stepped into the matter with a decision, Bush now is defending the wall. What has happened to America’s sense of justice, decency and respect for international law? I fear that it started slipping away under Clinton and has gone into a dark and endless hole under the Bush administration. Somehow, Ashcroft and Bush’s other legal advisors, along with Bush’s own love of Israel, have taken America away from the Bill of Rights and the Rule of Law, to a rule of “let’s see how much we can get away with.” This smacks of Israeli methods under Sharon and his two predecessors, Netanyahu and Barak. Has America used Israel as a model? It may be so, the federal government within the CIA and FBI and in the Pentagon has hired thousands of “Israeli advisors” (often former officers or Mossad). None of this bodes well for our democracy, because most of these men are totalitarian types, not democratic types. As to the wall, the international court pointed out, this is Palestinian land that Israel is occupying and that Israel has no right to build this wall on this land, and that it is also inhumane in its effects. But once again, Israel said they’d ignore the Hague, and immediately, Bush went along with Sharon and against international law . We are becoming an outcast nation, with Israel dragging down further into the muck and mud of immorality, disrespect and we are fast becoming the laughing stock of other nations as the tail of Israel wags us when and where it wants. When will all this stop? Haven’t the American political parties awakened to the FACT that the Israeli lobby is not all that strong. If it was, Lieberman would be our VP, with Gore as president. But remember, they lost. One of the main reasons they lost was because of Lieberman on the ticket. People in America are sick of the Zionists, but someone has not told our politicians; they still believe in the myth of Zionist and Israeli superiority. They are dead wrong; they shall see that following of Israel will lead America into further disasters. At this time, most of the people in the Muslim world have lost respect for America. With these new comments by Bush against the Hague and supporting the wall, he has made more enemies in the Arab and Muslim worlds—at a time when America’s image in the Muslim and Arab worlds was already at an all time low. << > Israel ... has already won the war against the Palestinians Sure, if you quote a neocon (like Krauthammer) you can hear any Zionist fantasy you wish. In my opinion, the reason why suicide and other attacks have diminished in Israel since the wall was commenced has nothing to do with the wall. The reason is that the suicide bombers and their bretheren have all moved to Iraq for the "hunting season". Now they are hunting GIs instead of Israelis. One has to admit that Israelis are smart. Meanwhile, Israel has to take down the wall and pay all the costs. (Or should I say the US taxpayer has to pay all the costs?)diplomacymonitor.com >>Israel must also put an end to the violation of its international obligations flowing from the construction of the wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory and must accordingly cease forthwith the works of construction of the wall, dismantle forthwith those parts of that structure situated within the Occupied Palestinian Territory and forthwith repeal or render ineffective all legislative and regulatory acts adopted with a view to construction of the wall and establishment of its associated régime, except in so far as such acts may continue to be relevant for compliance by Israel with its obligations in regard to reparation. Israel must further make reparation for all damage suffered by all natural or legal persons affected by the wall’s construction.<<