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To: Dayuhan who wrote (53810)	7/11/2004 4:47:59 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793586

Reagan was sitting in the chair when it happened, and might arguably have added the final pebble to the load that sank the ship. This is the Liberal argument, but historians are coming around to the other POV.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (53810)	7/11/2004 9:34:55 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793586

Clinton's greatest achievement was probably NAFTA, which is something a Republican probably couldn't have gotten away with. It's underrated, because free trade as a cause is so neglected, but it may someday be seen as a very large step indeed, both for what it accomplished and for the direction it pointed out... There were good things and bad things that happened during those years, and at this point the extent to which his policies were responsible for either is not entirely clear. Surprise! I disagree with you on both counts (and I don't feel lonely about it), if indeed it is two counts. In the first paragraph you mention nafta as Clinton's contribution. In the second you mention "good things" which presumably is nafta again.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (53810)	7/11/2004 11:54:39 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793586

Epitaphs are often wrong. Reagan didn't beat communism, communism sank under the weight of its own inadequacy. Reagan was sitting in the chair when it happened, and might arguably have added the final pebble to the load that sank the ship. Reagan put pressure on the Communist edifice, pressure both military and diplomatic, pressure to which they had to react, as Gorbachev admits, pressure which would not have been applied had Jimmy Carter been President throughout the 80s. That much is clear. Nobody is ever told for sure what would have happened if things had gone otherwise than they did.