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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (50771)	7/11/2004 9:44:32 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

'Fahrenheit 9/11' Prompts State Investigation Activists Gather To Watch Controversial Film SAN FRANCISCO -- A California sheriff's department featured in the movie "Fahrenheit 9/11" is now the focus of a state investigation. In San Francisco Wednesday, hundreds of activists watched a special screening of the controversial film "Fahrenheit 9/11," NBC11's Angie Crouch reported. Some of the people in the audience are in the film. They're part of an anti-war group called Peace Fresno. The group is featured in the movie because a Fresno sheriff's deputy infiltrated the group for 6 months in 2003 and is seen at a protest in the film. The group discovered he was an undercover anti-terrorism officer after he died in a motorcycle crash. "I think police wanted to know if we had links to terrorism, which is ridiculous," said Genie Baranoff, president of Peace Fresno. California Attorney General Bill Lockyear has opened an investigation into the surveillance of the group. Peace Fresno and the American Civil Liberties Union believe the surveillance was illegal. "California's constitutional right to privacy says that law enforcement cannot infiltrate or spy on an organization engaging in constitutionally protected activity if they don't have reasonable suspicion to believe there's some kind of crime," said Mark Schlosberg, attorney for the ACLU. The Fresno Sheriff's Department wouldn't comment, but has in the past, denied that Peace Fresno is under investigation. However, they insist the department has a right to attend any public meeting, crouch reported. nbc11.com

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (50771)	7/11/2004 9:52:26 AM
From: Suma	Respond to of 89467

Thanks for sharing. I know that a lot of people who support him believe that he has led us in a conflict in response to 9/11 that will make us all safer.. That he has the intestinal fortitude to say BRING EM ON.. and that is the appearance all of us enjoy. We are bigger, stronger and can take on anybody.. .But instead this whole response has been a disaster for all of us. I think terrorism danger has bee increased. THat more terrorists have been recruited to fight us and I fear that our troops there will never see peace but constant insurgency and we will keep on losing wonderful men. I do not feel safer. I believe that the resolve of those who hate us has grown to a point that they are willing to sacrifice anything and plan any horrible disaster for us. It's just a matter of time. We stuck out finger in a hornet's nest and they are swarming... Therefore I agree with your post ... After the invasion there were no post war plans. Sadly.