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To: alan w who wrote (38022)	7/11/2004 10:40:45 PM
From: Stan	Respond to of 39621

Alan, Sorry, but that rewords his unqualified statement again to something like, "like the rest that believe or say they have no hope."

To: alan w who wrote (38022)	7/12/2004 12:35:06 AM
From: Berry Picker	Respond to of 39621

Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. People continue to falsely teach that God Loves Everyone The Same Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. That is not just some meanless statement - Esau was wicked. Hebrews 12:16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. Paul is speaking about spiritual things not temporal and carnal. 1 John 3:12 not as Cain was of the evil one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his works were evil, and his brother’s righteous. I suppose it is not a great leap to go from thinking God loves everyone to arriving at some place of believing He will save everyone. The only alternative is to call Jesus a failure and exalt the will of man as greater than God Himself... -or- to go where you appear to have gone - Universalism (insert spooky organ music here) Statements like “as many as I love” make no sense if Jesus loves everyone. Adjectives make distinction – if I say married men usually live longer. It is meaningless if all men are married and there are no unmarried men. That is exactly what you have done however – when you say Jesus loves everyone. That to me is the ROOT of you error, Alan.