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To: alan w who wrote (38030)	7/11/2004 11:51:30 PM
From: Berry Picker	Respond to of 39621

Alan - I cannot believe you can read those verses brush over the fact that Christ only prays for those whom the Father had and will yet give Him and ignore that Christ says that He had kept all except the "son of perdition" who had "perished" I honestly can't believe the length you will go to ignore the fact that God hated Esau or that God hates anyone. If as you say you will lose all will to live if you do discover the truth - perhaps you are better off believing these lies - what do I know? I know that I am not disturbed by the destruction of the wicked. In your camp - they will all be saved what happens to this: Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel? You must think the death being spoken of is merely physical. What difference would that physical death really mean to God if God is saving all men anyway - what real difference - none !! Alan - I doubt you will change - you seem quite baptized in this error. I praise you for having studied the word and at least giving answer for what you believe - you are miles ahead of most people who profess to know the truth - but I do believe you are in error. Too many verses become meaningless if all men are saved. Verses that point out the distinction being the saved and unsaved spiritual and the unspiritual - the sheep and the goats. Jesus did not lay down His life for the Goats. He did not die for them - end of story. Brian