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To: Ilaine who wrote (139944)	7/12/2004 11:33:01 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Do you read your own sources or do you just list them? Here is what one of your links says: According to many Shiite Muslims, dissimulation can only be legally used by Muslims verbally, when a Muslim believes that he or she is being wrongly persecuted. The situation, for example, may be: if no matter whichever course of action an individual chooses, and he has to commit an evil, then reason says that he should select the lesser evil. Islamic scholars claim that there is reason and just leniency for faith to be safeguarded in such situations. The Qur'an states that if one lies, then the lier is guilty of sin and is a transgressor "except he who is compelled while his heart remains steadfast with the faith". Which is a very far cry from you accusation that Muslims are habitual liars even when it hurts their own case. BTW, I did not know Muslims used answering-ansar.org to get their religious edicts from. So whatever that site's interpretation of Islam is, is immaterial and only sites that are fallowed by Muslims are fair game. Anyways, this is not a religious study class. So go back to the original point of this debate that was the Bush admin ate whatever bull it was given without sufficient scrutiny because it confirmed their preconceptions and agendas. Oh, and so that you are clear about your designation, assuming you are a Jew or a Christian, you are not considered a "Kufr" (bad spelling) but people of "Kitab" (an officially recognized religion)...as for me, my religion is none of your business but you are not even remotely close [hint I have often pointed out that IMO organized religions of all denominations is as close to evil reincarnate on earth as we have).

To: Ilaine who wrote (139944)	7/12/2004 11:45:30 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

> The burden is on me to tell you, a Muslim, something you already understand better than I, a Kufr, can understand about your own culture and religion? Isn't that obvious that if you hold a belief about someone else's beliefs then the least you can do is to ask them directly about it and verify that you are not misunderstanding it? I guess for people like you who make up their mind first and look for justifications later this is not so obvious. No wonder you like the Bush admin so much; you use the same methods to come to conclusions. Hint# 2, since you seem to need so many hints :), I include atheism that feels a manifest destiny,e.g. communism, amongst religions.