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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: sea_urchin who wrote (7258)7/13/2004 10:56:04 AM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Bush and company COVERING THEIR ASS EVERY WHICH WAY....
first they bring on the TERROR SCARE
Then they say getting Bin Laden won't make any difference in AlQaeda threat (since he's in a hold somewhere) spider?
Then they have a back up for an attack to change the election
under the power of some APPOINTED BUSH FLUNKEE
Then Bush gets on and repeats OVER AND OVER AND OVER ( since he can't remember anything more than one statement at a time) that we're safer.....
meanwhile Cheney continues his lies about 911 and Saddam
CC



To: sea_urchin who wrote (7258)7/14/2004 4:32:12 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Re: So you say the reason for the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq is simply to provide an outlet for the frustrations of some KKK-like characters who would otherwise be making trouble in the US. I can't believe it. Sure, I accept the racism and self-righteousness which is inherent in the American personality.

Then you'll accept 911 as an exorcism of sorts... 911 as America's redemption for the sin of the OKC bombing:

Purging Ourselves of Timothy McVeigh
by Edward Linenthal


From the first shocking scenes of the bloodied survivors emerging out of the ruins of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and the iconic image of fireman Chris Fields holding the broken body of one-year-old Baylee Almon in his arms, media coverage has struggled to locate the Oklahoma City bombing in an appropriate story line.

For the first 48 hours, when it was widely reported that foreign terrorists (probably "Islamic militants") were responsible, the bombing was understood as yet another example of America being victimized by aliens-an innocent nation in a wicked world-and enthusiastic calls for righteous vengeance littered opinion pieces and letters to the editors in newspapers across the land. If Oklahoma City was like Beirut, it was because foreign terrorists had defiled America?s "heartland" with alien forms of terror, shattering a widespread sense of American "innocence," as if the nation fell into the harsh and often murderous realities of history for the first time with the body count in Oklahoma City.

With the arrest of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols several days after the bombing, however, explanatory narratives became more complicated. The uncomfortable realization that this horror had been carried out by white male Gulf War veterans --one of them a decorated veteran at that-- sparked the excavation of a completely different story of American identity. It was a story of a nation tormented by enduring legacies of racism, xenophobia, and violent populism, of virulent cancers emerging from the national body, with the Oklahoma City bombing seen as a tumor, an indicator of more profound internal disease.

Enduring convictions of innocence could only be maintained by distancing McVeigh and Nichols from "real" America and "real" Americans. Harper's publisher John MacArthur said of his media colleagues, "They are going to turn them into oddball crazies, caricaturing McVeigh as a trailer park terrorist, which is no better than the caricature of the Arabs." Indeed, McVeigh and Nicols were called "monsters," "drifters," "loners," and "reptilian-like murderers." Time's Lance Morrow portrayed the perpetrators as violent resident aliens existing at the nation?s "delusional margins." The editors of U.S. News and World Report assured the public that the lesson to take from Oklahoma was not that the American character was flawed but that it was "still incandescent."

To be sure, some outside the American media mainstream saw the perpetrators as representing an authentic if virulent strain of national identity. Jonathan Friedland, the Washington correspondent for the London Guardian, told a National Public Radio audience that McVeigh struck him as "wholly American, from his belief in government conspiracy, to his infatuation with guns, even to his "loner" persona." In an angry column in the Nation, Katha Pollitt declared, "If we're seriously interested in understanding how a young man could blow up a building full of hundreds of people, why not start by acknowledging that the state he now claims to oppose gave him his first lesson in killing?"

McVeigh and Nichols were contaminants of the body politic precisely because they could finally not be dismissed as alien beings. They had undergone the traditional rite of passage for American males, service in the Armed Forces, and emerged not as able citizens but as mass murderers, imagining themselves warriors in a holy crusade against the federal government in which body counts of civilians were a necessary part of the struggle.

This sense of contamination is evident in the hundreds of letters from schoolchildren in Michigan, where the perpetrators spent time at James Nichols' farm and reportedly attended meetings of the Michigan Militia. The letters plead for Oklahoma City schoolchildren not to hate them for being from Michigan. The sense of shame was so great that several early unsolicited memorial ideas came from Michigan residents who thought memorial suggestion would be a way of "doing penance" for living in a state widely viewed after the bombing as a bastion for the extreme and often violent world view of the militias --a state sometimes called "Militiagan."

Beyond Michigan, the sense of contamination spread to the small towns in New York state where McVeigh lived and went to school. Students soon learned that they were labeled as being "from McVeigh-land," and called "The Bombers." A sense of contamination by association was also felt by residents of Kingman, Arizona, the home of accomplice Michael Fortier and a place where McVeigh lived for a brief time; of Junction City, Kansas, where McVeigh rented the Ryder truck that carried the bomb; of Herington, Kansas, where Terry Nichols lived. McVeigh's motel room in Junction City was remodeled, and residents of Herington took great pains to let representatives of the national media know that since Nichols had only lived there for a few weeks he was not one of them.

The threat of the toxic presence of the perpetrators was in evidence as well during the planning of the Oklahoma City National Memorial Foundation's Memorial Center, as the desire for a museum exhibition to tell the story of April 19th and its aftermath clashed with an equally strong desire to prevent pollution of the memorial center by inclusion of the faces or stories of the perpetrators. Planners struggled with an exhibition script that included "the dark side." Eventually they settled on small side rooms that told the story of the arrest and trial of McVeigh and Nichols with little visual representation.

The bombing not only sparked explorations of American innocence, violence, and the threat of contamination from perpetrators. It quickly became cultural capital to be used in ongoing battles in the culture wars. Oklahoma City figured prominently in often angry discussions about the complicity-if any-of hate radio; in the suddenly perceived threat from militia culture; in debates over habeas corpus reform; in a renewed call for limits to free speech; and, of course, in debates over the death penalty.
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To: sea_urchin who wrote (7258)7/14/2004 5:11:52 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Follow-up....

Excerpt from the Linenthal paper:

The horror unleashed on April 19, 1995 remains unfinished business. It endures in the active grief of the family members, survivors, and rescuers who engaged the event through memorial-building. It endures in the media's infatuation with the language of pop psychology, as terms like "closure" and "healing process" often replaced the traditional religious language through which people had engaged loss for centuries.

It endures as well in the increasingly intense religious debate over the death penalty on the meaning of justice, vengeance, forgiveness, reconciliation, repentance, redemption, and the sacredness of life. And it endures in an equally intense cultural experience of the symbolic power of Timothy McVeigh and his threat to the purity of the body politic through his deeds, his continued life, and even the presence of his body in the soil of the nation.

As much as it is the final step of a legal process, the death penalty is a civil religious ritual of exclusion and purification, enacted on the alien bodies of domestic perpetrators. How this ritual relates to the more recognizably religious debate is not entirely clear. What is clear is that the execution of Timothy McVeigh will end neither the intensifying debate nor the lasting appeal of the ritual.


Hence the need for an exorcism to remove the Devil from the American body and send him back to some barbarian wilderness (Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, you name it)... Somehow, Bush acts as America's Chief Exorcist:

Exorcism
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Exorcism is mainly thought of as the rite of driving out the Devil and his demons from possessed persons. Exorcism is mainly performed in incidences of demonic possession which is generally distinguished from spiritual possession. Also the rite is mainly thought to be practiced by the Roman Catholic Church, but some Protestant denominations such as the Pentecostals and other charismatic groups practice it as well. These groups refer to the practice as "deliverance ministry" where gifted people drive out devils and heal while they touch the persons with their hands, called laying on of hands, and pray over them.

Technically, exorcism is not driving out the Devil or a demon, but it is placing the Devil or demon on oath. And, in some incidences there may be more than one demon possessing a person. "Exorcism" is derived from the Greek preposition "ek" with the verb "horkizo" which means "I cause [someone] to swear" and refers to "putting the spirit or demon on oath," or invoking a higher authority to bind the entity in order to control it and command it to act contrary to its own will.

In the Christian sense this higher authority is Jesus Christ. This act is based on the belief that the Devil, his demons, and evil spirits are afraid of Christ. The belief itself is based on Scripture. Coming from the sea of Galilee Christ entered the land of the Gerasenes. He was immediately met by a man from the tombs cut into the mountains of the area. The man was said to be possessed of an unclean spirit. Nothing could bind this man, not even chains. He lived in the mountains, crying, and cutting himself with stones. But, so it is told, when seeing Christ approaching, the man went to him seeking help. The uncleaned demon immediately recognized Christ, and Christ the demon. Christ, then, summoned the spirit to leave the man, and asked his name. "My name is Legion," answered the spirit, "for we are many." Once the demons left the man, Christ sent them into a nearby heard of swine who then jumped in to the sea and drowned. (Mark 5:1-13) Unlike other exorcists, it is believed, that Christ did not exorcise because He did not need to call on a higher authority since He Himself was that higher authority.

Now, not only did Christ exorcize demons, or unclean spirits, but he gave the powers to his disciples. "...he gave the power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness, and all manner of disease." (Matt.10:1)

From these two Biblical passages and others Catholics and Protestants alike believe they have the power to cast out the Devils and to heal. The Catholic Church has a procedure out-lined rite of exorcism which is set forth in "The Rituale Romanum." Other than this text the ritual has great variance determined by the exorcist performing the exorcism. The code of Cannon Law allows authorized ministers (the exorcists) to perform solemn exorcisms not only over the faithful, but also over non-Catholics and those who have been excommunicated from the Church.

During the ritual usually salt, representing purity, and wine, representing the blood of Christ, are present. The victim is to hold a crucifix during the rite. The exorcist is encouraged to use holy water and relics, usually pieces of bones from Saints, and recite Biblical scriptures and other prayers.

The greatest danger to the exorcist is becoming possessed by the Devil or demon himself. This is the reason why the exorcist must feel as free of sin as possible and feel no secret need for punishment. Otherwise, the Devil or demon can easily entrap him. An example of this is Father Jean-Joseph Surin, the Jesuit exorcist of Loudun, who became possessed while ministering to Sister Jeanne des Anges. Surin was reared in a cloister, practiced severe self-denial during his early years as a priest, experienced severe muscle pains, and had virtually cut himself off from all social contact which led him to come to the Sisters' Convent in poor health and a confused state of mind. Unlike his fellow Jesuits he was thoroughly convinced Sister Jeanne and her companion Sisters were truly possessed. Author Aldous Huxley in his "The Devils of Loudun" (1952) described Surin's mental state as one of "pathological illiteracy."

This is possibly the reason that Malachi Martin, a former Jesuit professor, claimed in his book "Hostage to the Devil" (1976), that much of the success of the exorcism depends upon the exorcist. He describes the type of priest best suited to be an exorcist as being a man of good physical health, being of middle age, routinely going about his normal pastoral duties. He usually is not brilliant or engaged in teaching or research. Although, Martin adds, there are exceptions to all these characteristics.

In his book Martin also describes the setting where the exorcism takes place. It is usually in a location where there is a definite connection between the demon and the victim, like the victim's bedroom or resident.

But, again, to Martin, the most important thing is the exorcist's disposition and those of his assistants. Presently few exorcists choose to work along. He generally is assisted by three other people. One is a junior priest who has been trained in exorcism procedures. He monitors the exorcism, helping the exorcist when possible not to be distracted by the possessive demon. Others can include a medical physician and a family member. The most important thing of all is that the exorcist and his assistants be physically strong and relatively guiltless. None must have any secret sins which the Devil or demon can use against them. In some incidences the Devil or demons may shout out the sins of the exorcist or his assistants attempting to shame them and ruin the exorcism.

Although all exorcisms are different in proceeding there are similar stages they follow. Martin describes these stages:

The Presence: The exorcist and his assistants become aware of an alien feeling or entity.

The Pretense: Attempts or actions of the evil spirit appear to be the victim's. The exorcist's first job is to break this Pretense and find out who the demon really is. Gaining the entity's name is most important.

Breakpoint: The moment when the Devil's Pretense finally collapses. This is usually a moment of complete pandemonium. There evolves a scene of panic and confusion, accompanied by a crescendo of abuse, horrible sights, noises, and odors. The Devil then turns on the victim, speaking of the person in the third person instead of as itself.

The Voice: Also a sign, the Voice (of the demon) becomes "inordinately disturbing and humanly distressing babel." The demon's voices must be silenced for the exorcism to proceed.

The Clash: As the Voices die out there is both a spiritual and physical pressure. The demon has collided with the "will of the Kingdom." The exorcist is now in direct battle with the demon, urging the entity to reveal more information about itself so it can be controlled. As previously mentioned, there is a connection between the entity and the victim's resident. The entity wants a place to be in, or it must return to Hell. An existence out of Hell is what the Devil or demon is fighting for.

Expulsion: In the supreme triumph of God's will, the demon or spirit leaves in the name of Jesus. All present feel the Presence dissipate, occasionally with receding noises and voices. The victim may remember the ordeal or may not recall anything that has happened.

The ritual of exorcism is more cautiously employed by the Catholic Church at present than it once was. When reviewing the conditions for demonic possession that were once listed one can easily see many of the symptoms are those of epilepsy, hysteria, schizophrenia, and other psychological disorders. So priests are cautioned to be as certain as possible the person is truly demonically possessed before performing the ritual.

In some incidences this precaution may not be enough to guard an innocent person against the ritual. For example, Saint Paul exorcized a slave girl who made much money for her masters by soothsaying. (Acts 16:16-18) Today, occultists call such acts prophecy. It was not too long ago that Catholics were still forbidden to visit fortune tellers. Other religions such as Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Shinto and others have some form of exorcism rituals. One of the best known Judaic ritual, cited in Judaism rabbinical literature dating from the first century AD, concerns the "dybbuk," an evil or doomed spirit which possesses a victim and causes mental illness and a personality change. The dybbuk is expelled through the victim's small toe, and then is either redeemed or sent to hell.

In many Eastern religions spirits and ghosts are blamed for many ills, and are cast out of people. However, such afflictions are not regarded as all-out battles for the persons' souls. The typical Hindu exorcism practices consist of blowing cow-dung smoke, pressing rock salt between the fingers, burning pig excreta, beating or pulling the victim's hair, reciting prayers or mantras, and offering gifts of candy and other presents to get the evil or troublesome spirits to depart from the persons.

The shamanic ritual is for the shaman to enter a trance during which he attempts to discover the cause of the victim's trouble. Frequently the cause is thought to be connected with a dead person. The shaman then is said to travel to the lower world to speak with this soul. He then knows the cure of this victim's affliction, or may even bring back the soul to cure it.

Not everyone considers the purpose of the ritual of exorcism as expelling the spirit or as condemning it to hell as do the Christians. Some, including occultists and witches, do not view the spirits demonic but merely confuse and prone to invade other people. The purpose of this type of exorcism is to release the spirit. Then the spirit is free to journey onto its resting place or new life. Witches frequently are asked to exorcise ghosts and other unwanted psychic energies.

Spirit exorcisms, as cures of physical illnesses and solutions to other personal problems are common in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, the Orient, and among tribal cultures. A.G.H.

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