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To: Brumar89 who wrote (140208)7/13/2004 11:13:48 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I can't find a link, but I am pretty sure US' stance was that he'd either be brought in dead or alive, or be at least exiled. Given that neither has happened and he is walking around just fine, I'd say he won something.

> Well, you were arguing he gained power from his rebellion.

He moved from a position of being marginalized and chased by the marines to one of being taken into account and not being on the "Wanted" list. I'd say he's improved his position.

> Suppose he'd held onto all the territory his Mahdi army controlled early on

You don't play chess, do you? One rarely cares about a square that can be kept out of opposition's hand and cares even less about one that may be recaptured easily. Now he may be mistaken in that perception, but that is what he is thinking.

> never called off the rebellion

Why would he not do that? He still has his army and can command it to action anytime he wants. Why would he choose now instead of a more opportune time?

> and continued to reject the Iraqi government

Why would he do this if he can exert some influence over it and get freebees while at the same time keeping his hands clean and blaming any mistakes on the government?



To: Brumar89 who wrote (140208)7/14/2004 1:24:55 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
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So now what do you think? Do you still think he is an idiot who has been crushed and got nothing for his fight?