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To: abstract who wrote (3544)7/14/2004 11:09:14 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 35834
 
<font color=blue>"The point is that whereas there is room for your opinion, there is also room for other opinions."
<font color=black>
The point of this thread is almost exclusively devoted to
opinions that defy reality, something that you seem
incapable of comprehending. This thread is quite specific
that there is not room for "other opinions" here unless
they can be substantially supported by factually accurate,
widely accepted, credible evidence. The only "other
opinions" that are acceptable here are those that are
presented to expose them to be reality defying "opinions".

Read the thread header. You will see once again, I am
right & you are wrong about the nature of this thread.
This thread is not here for you to post as you please.
That is reality, again something you seem incapable of
grasping.

I did not create this thread so folks could come here &
pollute it with their personal opinions. This thread is
for folks who wish to see & share reality defying opinions
exposed with factual, credible evidence (again, see the
thread header).

I specifically did this so that this thread would not
become like the GWB thread, the FADG thread, etc., etc.
There, one is forced to wade through endless "other
opinions", just to get to a scant few reasonable, logical
& reality based posts. These so called "other opinions"
are laced with personal attacks, name calling, propaganda,
lies, deceit, distortion, misrepresentations, blatant
bias, half truths, spin & misleading information, yet most
of them are represented as though they were factual. It's
like listening to immature children taunt each other like
school yard bullies.

Those threads have become a complete waste of time IMO.

FWIW, you are proving why this thread is necessary. There
are so many out there like you who just don't get it, but
they are convinced that they are right, regardless (or in
spite of) of the facts.



To: abstract who wrote (3544)7/14/2004 11:36:23 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
<font color=blue>"Though you pretend ownership of the truth, the truth is subjective. Others can possess a different truth than yours, drawn from the same facts, and be just as correct as you are."<font color=black>

I pretend no such thing. This is just another example of
your baseless personal opinion. Despite my clear posting
history & the standards established in the thread header,
you actually think your opinion is fact even though all of
the evidence & all of the facts clearly contradict your
opinion.

As for those who possess a so called different truth, I
covered that point in the thread header too - back it up
with factual, accurate, credible evidence.<font size=4> Any
differences that continue once all salient facts are
established will result in a reality based debate.<font size=3>

And that is the point of this thread. Too many folks don't
care about facts, truth, accuracy or reality. It's all
about clinging to ideological POV's regardless of the
facts & winning by any means necessary. Those folks are
not welcome here except to expose how unhinged from
reality they have become.

Here's more proof I am right & you are wrong......

From the thread header..... <font color=blue>This thread will be a place to link posts from folks who seem to cling to perceptions that defy reality even as time & events unfold in stark contrast to these stated POV's..... This thread was created as a place for me to freely rant & rave about reality defying POV's I see all over SI & elsewhere.

However, for those so inclined, feel free to share something you have read (please link it) & discuss why you think these POV's were born of false perceptions, fervent, inflexible ideological beliefs, extreme bias, etc.
<font size=4>
Please try to stick to facts & reality (I.E. facts & reality that are widely accepted & easily supported - not because you or your ideological peers say so).

Disagreements are welcome - even vehement disagreements. If you are going to debate differing POV's, attack the subject matter, not the person. I'll have a very low tolerance for personal attacks.<font size=3>

“Most people nurture the facts that confirm their world view and ignore or marginalize the ones that don't, unable to achieve enough emotional detachment from their own political passions to see the world as it really is.” - David Brooks



To: abstract who wrote (3544)7/14/2004 11:54:30 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
<font color=blue>"To pretend that you are right, to the exclusion of others, is selfrighteous."<font color=black>

I pretend no such thing. Unlike you, I adhere to the
standards established for this thread. I express opinions
that are reality based & can be supported by factually
accurate, credible evidence. I am willing to change my POV
as time & events unfold so that my POV continues to be
reality based.

That is where you & I differ. You honestly believe your
opinion is rock solid fact even when there is no evidence
to support it. And you cling to your faulty POV as time &
events continue to discredit your opinions.
<font color=blue>
"To prefer diatribe to dialogue is offensive."
<font color=black>
Show me two prime examples where this is true. I already
know that is a false assertion & a reality defying opinion
of yours. And how did you manage to ascertain that
considering the subject matter this thread is based upon &
my posting history here?
<font color=blue>
"You selectively draw from arguments you are comfortable rebutting, yet often omit the meat while dissecting the gristle. You can do better."<font color=black>

Show me two prime examples where this is true. I already
know that is a false assertion & a reality defying opinion
of yours. I select issues that are completely "on topic"
for this thread. Then I provide factually accurate,
credible evidence that supports it. And as time & events
unfold, additional evidence is presented here to either
confirm these issues remain true, or they show that new
evidence exists that now runs counter to what was
previously known.

This thread is clear proof of this.

What evidence exists to support your opinion?