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To: abstract who wrote (3548)	7/15/2004 12:13:21 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

<font color=blue>"Contrary to your opinion, my opinions are supported by reality and are available to be changed by reality."<font color=black> Yes, you do say that often enough. The problem with that assertion is that you consistently fail to provide links to this "reality" that you claim your opinions are based upon. This thread requires you to provide <font color=blue>"facts & reality (I.E. facts & reality that are widely accepted & easily supported - not because you or your ideological peers say so)." <font color=black> Instead, I end up providing credible facts & reality that show your opinions to be severely flawed & you continue to state your opinion as fact sans any genuine evidence. And yes, you do infrequently post an article here that is factually flawed, biased, distorted & misleading as I have established time & time again.

To: abstract who wrote (3548)	7/15/2004 12:18:39 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

<font color=blue>"Credible evidence is open to interpretation. You must know this."<font color=black> I do know this. If you had actually taken time to objectively read what I say, you would have known this too. I encourage reality based debate on this thread. The thread header is clear about this. What is not acceptable here are opinion based debates where one or more parties differ about their own reality defying opinions........ From the thread header........ <font color=blue><font size=4> Please try to stick to facts & reality (I.E. facts & reality that are widely accepted & easily supported - not because you or your ideological peers say so). Disagreements are welcome - even vehement disagreements. If you are going to debate differing POV's, attack the subject matter, not the person. I'll have a very low tolerance for personal attacks.

To: abstract who wrote (3548)	7/15/2004 12:35:32 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

<font color=blue>"Take a room full of intelligent people. Present them with an array of divergent yet related facts and observe that there will be as many opinions about those facts as there are people in the room." <font color=black> Yup, I agree. That's because a number of those so called "facts" will frequently be opinions & fervent beliefs that are not reality based or completely true, yet some of these folks will be adamant they are "facts" even though they have nothing reality based to support their factualy flawed opinions. When there are going to be debates on this thread, I want to establish the salient facts first, then debate the different reality based opinions about what they really mean. Look at other political threads. How can you honestly say that is healthy, honest, reality based debate? <font color=blue><font size=4> From the thread header one more time..... Please try to stick to facts & reality (I.E. facts & reality that are widely accepted & easily supported - not because you or your ideological peers say so). <font size=3>

To: abstract who wrote (3548)	7/15/2004 12:41:24 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 35834

<font color=blue>"You cannot be the only person (along with those who agree with you) who is right. It is just not possible. It isn't even healthy to wish it were so." <font color=black> When have I EVER claimed I am the only person who is right? NEVER! How many times do I have to say that I am willing to change my POV as time & events unfold? The problem is that you really believe those false perceptions to be cold hard fact when they are utterly baseless. You see serious flaws in me that are genuine reflections of your own personal flaws. <font color=blue> "Do me a favor. Just think about it." <font color=black> Perhaps it is time for you to do some serious, objective, reality based, introspective thinking.