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To: LindyBill who wrote (54410)	7/15/2004 11:45:27 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793891

Big, big, big stretch to get from gay marriage to a boom in prison population. Talk about needing to defend an argument with data. I'll take it as simply your cut on things; not an argument. And you'll have to take it as my cut that there are many, many levels and ways we disagree on those illusory connections.

To: LindyBill who wrote (54410)	7/15/2004 2:49:54 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793891

...as allowing gay marriage in Norway and Denmark has proved. Out of wedlock births zoomed after it was approved. LOLOLOL! I thought that sounded fishy so I researched it. Took a while to sort through all the articles that were spouting the same, er, error you spouted and find some actual data. Here they are. From Statistics Norway. Percentage of live births out of wedlock--Norway 1951-1955 3.7 1956-1960 3.6 1961-1965 4.0 11 1966-1970 5.7 33 1971-1975 9.0 58 1976-1980 12.4 38 1981-1985 20.0 61 1986-1990 33.7 69 1991-1995 44.3 31 1996-2000 48.9 10 The last column I added. It is the percentage increase in out-of-wedlock births in Norway over time. As you can clearly see, the rate of increase has gone down dramatically since the year in question, which was 1990. More like an implosion than an explosion.