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To: Srexley who wrote (590991)	7/15/2004 2:53:13 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

<<It was a violation of everybody's rights. Ok?>> Exactly. So comparing same-sex marriage to interracial marriage is hardly an insult to the civil rights struggles of African Americans. If not letting people marry whatever race they want is a violation of everyone's rights why isn't prohibiting people from marrying whatever sex they want a violation of everybody's rights? <<You compare a genetic trait that resulted in the violation of EVERYBODY in America's>> But sex is a genetic trait too. You've got nothing except that you just don't like the idea of same-sex marriages. Well people didn't like the idea of interracial marriages either not so long ago. They, like you, argued it would be harmful to the children among other things. Interracial marriage was left up to the states. Slowly but surely, state's began to allow it until the Supreme Court said every state had to allow and recognize it. As a result of the decision, Virginia and fifteen other states had their anti-miscegenation laws declared unconstitutional. Those states were: Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and West Virginia. In the fifteen years prior to the decision, fourteen states had repealed their anti-miscegenation laws. Those fourteen states were: Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Indiana, Maryland, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming. Sound familiar? That's how it's going to go this time too. And until recently, President Bush and Vice President Cheney agreed that this should be a state issue. Steve Dietrich

To: Srexley who wrote (590991)	7/15/2004 3:07:14 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

<<Then try to get that rule changed, and argue it on it's own merit.>> Not the point. You said: "See how many gay people (which they are free to be with no restrictions)." I showed this isn't true with the don't ask don't tell thing. I'd think in a running debate like this you would either concede the point or defend your statement. Too often you do neither, trying to change the subject which is neither impressive nor honorable on your part. Just say, "okay you're right" and move on or tell me why you think i'm wrong. But ignoring it and hoping it will go away isn't much of an approach. Steve Dietrich