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To: LindyBill who wrote (54478)	7/15/2004 9:21:53 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793914

You know that out of wedlock did not go down. Hasn't happened anywhere in Western Civ. Bill, those percentages are the rate of increase, not the percent of out of wedlock births. The percent of out of wedlock births went from 33.7 to 48.9 over that particular decade. You have to look at rate of increase to assess "explosion." The rate of increase slowed dramatically. If you go from zero to sixty MPH in ten seconds and then increase speed to sixtyfive over the next ten seconds, the latter ten seconds could not be characterized as an explosion. The first ten seconds was the explosion.

To: LindyBill who wrote (54478)	7/15/2004 9:49:38 PM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 793914

That's a misread, John. You know that out of wedlock did not go down. Hasn't happened anywhere in Western Civ. Hmmm, we need to go back to basics here, Bill. It's not about the absolute level of out of wedlock births; rather it's about the rate of increase. If permitting gay-lesbian marriages had an effect on the rate of out of wedlock marriages, the rate of increase would have increased over the prior periods. Not only did it not do so; it decreased. And in the last five years, very dramatically. So while there are more out of wedlock births, there is no basis in this data to argue it has anything to do with gay-lesbian marriages. Which has the great value of fitting common sense as well. Not always true with data.