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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (35819)	7/16/2004 4:18:09 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

well if that is the case then we should hear about a Guiliani VP slot any day now. Because Bush isn't in a good position here, and I'm sure the republican party knows it. Yesterday on CNBC they were interviewing voters in Ohio, many of whom went from riches to rags these past few years. They said the unemployment rate in ohio is well over 30% and many of them were jobless after holding managerial positions in the 90s. They repeatedly used the term "Bushwhacked", as in, "I was Bushwhacked out of my job, my mortgage and my investments". Bush thinks he can win Ohio? I think not. I haven't heard anything from the republicans that even HINTS at helping out the common man. This perception is prevalent in the red states too.

To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (35819)	7/16/2004 5:08:55 PM
From: Rarebird	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

<Don't fool yourself> Let's look ahead. It is 2009. The US has withdrawn from Iraq, leaving the Middle East still seething. President Bush could not get re-elected in 2004 and President Kerry was a one term President. The unceasing credit expansions since the late 1990s and the lengthy attempt by Fed Chairman Greenspan to stave off the inescapable US recession rolled President Kerry under. The NATO Alliance is no more. The European Union, in stages, simply took the parts that belonged to themselves and disassembled them politically, militarily and strategically, leaving the remaining US military forces in Europe as mostly forlorn looking color guards. Eventually, with a few fanfares, the United States withdrew even these. The Middle East debacle and the retreat has torn apart the US political establishment that has held forth ever since the end of WW II. Now, inside the US, two main intellectual and political forces are contending for supremacy. One new ideological force is in fact very old. It advocates a return to the original US Constitution and the foreign policy which followed from it of no entangling foreign alliances. The other still clings to the forlorn hope of regaining, though external wars, the near global empire that the United States once had.